Where did you get this from? Direct one-for-one copying is theft in physical art, being inspired is not. AI is not “inspired” it is a one-for-one copy of existing work. Unlike collaging where there is obvious artistic intent and limitations to the medium, AI fart is just digital cutting and pasting of the desirable (read least-error) bits from other peoples work without artistic intent and without the consent of the artists. I’ve never seen a collage where the artist claims that the work of another featured in the collage is now theirs. AI “fartists”, desperate to be taken seriously, just can’t stop lying about who made what, it isn’t yours and you didn’t make it.
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My opinion regarding people who use these tools depends on how they use them.
I use them in private to casually generate images for my own enjoyment that I do not share.
No judgement from me. To me, that’s not very different from pirating a movie for personal consumption. It’s technically immoral for all of the reasons listed in this thread, but I just can’t bring myself to be disgusted by people for something so minor. If they’re having fun, good for them.
I use them to generate images that I publicly display and use as reference material for my own non-profit creative projects, in the place of commissioned art.
This is the point where I start to think a little less of people. They’re publicly advertising that they have no interest in paying for the services of individual artists who would be grateful for their patronage, and would rather use a morally dubious tool to generate images free of charge. If nothing else, I think of these people as a little cheap and shameless, but it’s not enough for me to stop associating with them. It just puts a dent in my opinion of them.
I use them to generate images that I use for my own products that I sell, since it’s easier and cheaper than paying artists for their services.
This is the point where I stop associating with that entity and stop buying their products out of principle. I try to avoid giving money to those who put profit before people, where I can.
Some more than others is correct.
Certain techniques, such as tracing or photo-bashing, are frowned upon because when using these techniques, the artist is relying too heavily on their references and not enough on their own skill and creativity.
In the case of generating images, there is no skill or creativity involved at all. A machine looks at the prompt it has been given, mashes together the images in its database that fit the prompt and outputs an image that is nothing more than a cleverly programmed combination of the art in the machine’s database.
It’s an extremely sophisticated version of photo-bashing that removes any sort of human creativity and skill from the equation, unless you consider writing prompts creative or skilful. And like I said, photo-bashing was frowned upon long before this new fad came around, as a cheap and lazy form of art. It’s no wonder that people think even less of the images generated using these tools.
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Sure, its a choice.
I’m thinking of other industries that use AI or robots, and the more searching I do the more I wonder if the creative industries are more resistant to AI than any other sector, however my pessemistic mindset believes its only a matter of time, sadly.
I have a background in music and while using AI to recreate iconic vocalists doing songs they’d never be caught alive singing is funny, it is also rather weird when it gets to copyright and who owns the voice on the records. For as much as I find her music generic, Taylor Swift did the industry a solid by remastering her own songs and stiffing her previous record label.
I wonder if artists could do the same, I know there is a program out there that can make one’s art invisible or straight up harm the AI trying to data scrape it. Then, surely it turns into a back and forth much like anti-virus software vs viruses.
I will say that techbros are obnoxious and trying to get one over on artists screams of insecurity.
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That much is given. Since direct and full on copying is well… Copyright infringement.
But then things starts to get iffy when you try to copyright styles, compositions, materials and mere concepts.
Arguably there is skill in it, but not from artistic side. But the technological.
Which is why I’m against the very vocal attitude of trying to shut down the development of AI generators and lock down access to artists works.
Bad legislature will just make the end-user experience for everyone worse and stifle technological advancements.
As we can see with patent and dmca abuse.
I won’t deny that the creation of the image generators requires skill, but I will argue against the idea that the act of prompting requires anywhere near as much creativity or skill as actually creating art.
I’m also not against the existence of these image generators, provided that they use ethically sourced art in their databases and aren’t used to put artists out of business. In an ideal world where scarcity doesn’t exist, I wouldn’t have an issue with these image generators at all, but we’ve all gotta eat.
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The only ones who suffers from this, particularly the latter, is the AI techbro grifters.
It does not hamper any greater human development.
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But Vixi, they tell us that AI will bring us close to that utopia we have been striving for for generations. It definitely won’t be used in service of the elite this time, they swear it!
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The copyright issues surrounding these AI image generators is significant enough that the Dutch government has forbidden anyone working for it from using them for their work - the judicial bigwigs do not see a case where the state gets brought before court regarding the use of AI images and potential copyright infringement will go well for the state at all, which tells me more than enough about the legal area the products of these generators find themselves in - even before specific legislation has been introduced - simply due to how dubiously sourced the data used for the image generation in question is
No amount of techbro future-is-nowspeak will change this; the legal aspect of it all is becoming increasingly clear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJv_G-WQXgQ
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Reminds me of Sam Bankman who was hailed as “The good guy” of crypto and is now facing lifetime in prison for some of the biggest money laundring schemes, bribery, theft & wire-fraud in modern history.
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imagine believing anyone literally called bank man
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There is skill in creating lockpicks, then said lockpicks are used to unlock doors and other containers to, you guessed it. STEAL.
Just because there is skill involved in creating it still doesn’t excuse it. Weird angle to come from and yet again weird hoops tech bro’s like to jump through to justify their work towards creating tools used in theft.
Just because I maxed my lockpicking to 100 in skyrim doesn’t mean I can do it right in front of the guard. Well, unless I use my Thieves Guild status…
But we’re not exactly in Riften now are we?
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Bank man fraud, if you wrote it into a tv show people would think it was a bit much
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The Florida Man of financial crimes.
My sibling in humanity art has never been more accessible than it is NOW. There’s so many pretty good FREE ART PROGRAMS out there, otherwise pen and paper is not mad expensive nor is a paintbrush, canvas and paint.
AI is stealing and used by lazy people who don’t want to put effort or work into actually doing art. They want fast results and only have profit in mind, just like they had with NFTs and Crypto.
Stop trying to pass people against AI off as if we’re trying to gatekeep people from art when literally the opposite is true.
Sincerely me, working in a creative field like many others and seeing my job and employment at risk due to blumming AI and it’s rampant scraping of unvoluntary data aka THEFT.
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If the functionality of a tool requires it to leech off the hard work and creativity of other people, it’s just not a very nice tool.
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hideo kojima naming
yeah I’m the CEO of this AI image generation program
my name is Art Steeler
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AI art is essentially the steamed hams scene with Skinner but with more insidiousness.
I can’t wait for the era of ai generated videos of officials that are indistinguishable from actual video and the increasing difficulty in sieving fact from fiction.
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