AI Art as character reference (And now some very unrelated conversation)

Though funny enough, we have hit a point now where the data can’t really be scraped from modern works without excessive curation.

Since the models runs a risk of getting feedback loops from their own products.

Excessive curation which is done by exploiting the labour of less economically prosperous countries, of course.
https://time.com/6247678/openai-chatgpt-kenya-workers/
https://www.cjr.org/tow_center/qa-uncovering-the-labor-exploitation-that-powers-ai.php

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Isn’t that usually outsourcing? Like how Blizzard outsourced 3d modelling for Reforged.

Not that I’m for outsourcing.

Yeah and wonder how that happended in the first place… Oh right, they just did it to EVERY GOD DAMN ART HOSTING WEBSITE INCLUDING LOCKED NDA ONES.

Which they are atm and its funny bc it ruins the models which is GOOD. Kill AI with fire and leave it as the helpful industry tool it once was.

What Elenthas linked is not that, it’s modern slavery in the form of using lesser off people often in developing countries with unstable economical and political climate.
While nothing new it’s not exactly a thing to support either.

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Doesn’t this show that the entire thing is a severe flaw and is just a bad idea? It seems very blatantly so to me.

From Ceicdata.
“Kenya Monthly Minimum Wages: Average: USD data was reported at 193.544 USD in 2017”

So, seems like an usual wage in Kenya.

What if your robot was just a guy?

None of this was what I expected when I watched the movie AI featuring Jude Law and Haley Joel Osment.

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193 USD a month is extremly poor wage and well below the basic standard of essentials in most of the world.

This is not really helping to prove that its good practise to have people work for it.

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Mans need to go back to school and maybe learn what cost of living, living standards and what unstable political and economical climates mean.

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Not really that much of a pitfall as if a human made a recipe, then someone referenced that recipe with slight alteration, repeatedly until it was something completely different.

Some times faults join in that gets carried over to the next iteration and expanded on.

The ending to that was pretty bad.

This is again not applicable since AI can’t create anything by itself.

It can’t do alterations on its own nature, it must always come from somewhere else, hence why you get the problem of them now self-butchering eachother for parts for the images.

If someone’s entire point is “Its okay, they are earning the minimum wage of the country” and the minimum wage is barely 1/5 of the basic essentials cost of living, then its a very bad point.

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It’s a terrible point made from someone who is either so well off they have no connection to the rest of us mortal souls or just uneducated in regards to… why that is very bad.

And again, developing country in a relatively unstable economical and political climate, caused both by history of colonisation and modern interventions.

Another good example would be the standard wage in the US, terrible for what their cost of living is.

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To a large degree you can say the same regarding humans. Yes we “learn”, but at the same time there is a lot of things that is the culmination of generational training and hard-wired into us. Like fear of spiders.

Our very own being came from somewhere else.

Sigh. I am not in any way shape or form for outsourcing. Just pointing out that, that gotcha article isn’t really a gotcha when speaking in relative terms of payment considering the nation the workers came from.

Most outsourcing should quite frankly have been taxed to such a degree that companies would have preferred local workers.

You’re not in favour of outsourcing until you launder it though a robot

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This is still nowhere near the same as humans have the capability of creating things on their own with individual thoughts and expressions.

There is again, a difference between being inspired by something and directly lifting it and pasting it together with other things.

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I am also not particulary fond of those trying to sell AI imagery or use it to flood art sites.

I am for technological advancements and against draconian laws that in the end only favours the few wealthy.

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