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I mainly pug and even though i join good pugs with geared ppl, when we attempt alga we usually wipe because the tanks die. This happened 4 weeks in a row now.
This makes people being super picky which is bad. It also promotes favoritism towards certain spec (ex. prot pala).
You should be able to down this boss in pugs when the players are good and do the mechanics and not wipe because the healer are a milisecond late with healing.
So please nerf him and give me lootz. Ty
Youāre not wiping if players are good and do the mechanics. Algalon was killed in Naxx gear within 2 hours of Ulduar being released, Ulduar was released 3 and a half months ago and now people having 230+ ilvl is very common.
If the tanks are dying all the time itās a reflection on the players not doing mechanics right, specifically it means preparing cooldowns for specific periods of the fight, both personal and raid cdās. Sometimes random tank deaths happen, but itās not that often when you play the game well as a group, and even with a tank death on Algalon you can recover most of the time.
By what right?
The ppl you are refering to arent pugs tho, but your point is still valid
Iām pretty sure that was never the intention back in OG WOTLK, and Especially not in this āPre-nerfedā version.
Its possible so? And the raids should NOT be tuned for pugs. You should probably find a good guild as raids will only get harder from here.
Algalon is literally easier than Mimiron
For dps players and tanks - yes.
For healers - no.
I understand that a level 15 Warlock might have trouble downing this boss.
Jokes aside. Plenty of groups are killing it, even without prot palas.
Just need to get better i suppose.
On 25man considering Ulduar gear I think
Yogg 0 > Mimiron > Iron Council > Algalon.
Algalon is the hardest on 10man tho, but either way the boss is obviously very puggable because pugs are killing it all the time.
I canāt grasp why Yogg 0 is so hard. Literally players have 10 seconds to target/focus their add and use tauntā¦ Somehow itās too much for some people.
Iron Council is hard because you always have that greedy players standing in rune instead moving to big boss butt resulting in raid taking way too much damage.
I agree Mimiron is hard, thou we one shot him every reset. Itās harder yet other easier bosses overwhelm players xD
The fight is super boring and anti-climatic as melee. You just pump and the tanks die
The margin for error is too thin for tanks and healers.
I guess next time will spend my whole day trying to find the most meta pug with 2x prot pala 5k to carry my a*s.
You happy blizz?
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this part is true. the margin of error is small as well, and it got smaller since the buff
ive noticed now that i can pop both my trinks (and i have 29% dodge 21% parry before trinks) but i might not avoid any attacks while trinks are active
I dunno, I couldnāt get 10man Alga done with guild, but after the 2nd guild group stopped happening I went to a pug and now Iām killing him every week.
Between 10 and 25 iāve healed over 20 kills of Algalon now.
There is a small chance that one of your tanks just gets god-handed, and depending on when that happens, that can be a surefire wipe. But it doesnāt happen often, and if your tanks and healers are geared and not asleep on the wheel, then you will fairly reliably kill it without or with very few wipes week to week.
The reason it feels so unforgiving is that nothing else in ulduar demands the same level of mechanical precision from healers and tanks.
Algalon is all about proper CD rotation. Itās better to spend 20 minutes writing down the assignments for each tank and healer than wipe for an hour because tanks get demolished.
And many pugs do.
2nd amendment
Algalon is meant to be the āhard-mode-onlyā boss, I think him being difficult isā¦ Kinda the point.
It depends how you define āpugā. For me a pug is 10 complete strangers with no discord. Iād say the percentage of a pug like that to do Alga is small, maybe because it requires coordination with cds. Same reason people are being too picky. Not to mention the āNeed pala tankā in group chats all the time. Just a general bad boss fight in my opinion. I canāt wait for next phase so i can faceroll togc and grab ez gear, and if the pugs wipe on anub at least i know itās a fun fight.