Never give up!
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Yea, you still don’t understand the argument. You’re saying that, using an automated tool, you can avoid toxic players? No you can’t.
I am a very persistent person. Else I wouldn’t have been able to do a single dungeon in TBCC XD
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You cant avoid toxic players with a manual search either, if you dont know they are toxic in advance. If you know someone is toxic once he joins your group in RDF, you can kick him. So you are indeed able to avoid playing with toxic players as much as you are able to do now (if its not crossrealm).
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Yes you can. You blacklist them and won’t get pooled with them again.
I tell you a story of how good this works without the RDF.
In the beginning of TBCC, when I actually also still believed the community nonsense, I tried to maintain a friend list and blacklisted people who misbehaved in dungeons.
At one point I joined a random group and the leader of the group invited a player from my blacklist.
So what should I do? I can’t convince the other players in the group to kick that player, because they don’t know me and it would be just testimony against testimony. And if I just leave the group now the others will see me as the toxic player.
So I just did the dungeon with the player I’ve blacklisted and stopped to put players on my blacklist. Because without RDF it’s just a placebo. It feels good to blacklist the person, who did you wrong, but it doesn’t really have an effect. Because it won’t prevent you to run into that player again.
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You can’t kick that easily in the RDF. I recently learned, that it takes 15 minutes before the vote kick gets activated, and then the other players have to also vote for the kick.
But if you know the player is toxic you can blacklist him and the RDF won’t pair you up with that player anymore.
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Well, not the first time no. That’s not possible anywhere anyhow. But once you encountered one that you rather never ever want to meet again, with RDF you can simply put that person on your ignore list and RDF sorts it out so you’ll never be grouped with that person again.
Which you sure as h ** l can’t without RDF.
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How much do you pay to play on a Pserver? Or did you forget this is a sub-to-play game? bad things work on Pservers because ppl dont pay to play there.
Also what is the point in making a group manualy when you get extra rewards from RDF?
Exactly this. I won’t accept bribes for doing dungeons.
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Oh hey its that dude doing that thing where he appears posts absolute nonsense and then gets salty when people correct him …
You make group and then join RDF … same as you do with premade BGs or arenas…
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Rewards are only for random dungeons.
I would be fine if they removed those rewards completely.
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You can form a group and then still use the RDF, even though you are 5/5 People. You will get ported to the dungeon and get the extra rewards, even though you played with a premade.
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If i want to act like that with RDF i can do the same without RDF, the only diference is if you tag alone with RDF you can again spawn with the bad guy, but, good luck on a server with 5k+ players.
I already bad people on Classic WoW and we couldn’t kick him just because the time to get a new dps for this specific dg + the fact that we have to wait for him was not a good decision, so we had to play with him and end the dg. However of course on Wotlk there is summoning and dg are smaller, but i just wanted to say that it’s not because there is no RDF that there is no bad people, Classic proved that, TBC again, pserv Wotlk again.
Yes and again, Wotlk pserv they wanted to try no RDF proved that it changed nothing.
Yes we know that and we don’t care ? I prefer using RDF and doing my quests, up my reputation, up my professions to be ready for the raid than slacking in Norfendre with my own group waiting for a tank/heal for a specific dg.
If i have the RDF, i can play in Azeroth and Outland, if i don’t have RDF, i just can’t, because the time to return to the old zone like Un’Goro for exemple because i need to farm the Thorium is the time to get a new group.
So again, we don’t care about waiting for it. And i think it’s faster for someone to wait for it than being the first to MP the announcer and getting a “sorry full”
Yes he can’t at the beginning, but with a good Naxx stuff + a shield or Ulduar stuff maybe he can, because it’s ez. We already saw some tank doing trash mobs without any heal with blue stuff…
How do you know that first ?
And second, admiting for example that it’s true, it’s just because players are waiting for Wotlk, because they only play Wotlk. So =>
They know the game, not you.
Again, I don’t mean to sound pretentious but i played over 12 years on Wotlk, i know more the game than you, i know his community, i understand the game, you don’t.
Exactly, you have to adjust to the community of PRO WOTLK, Pro wotlk players don’t have to adjust to the Vanilla community, because this is Wotlk, not Vanilla.
When Classic was released all TBC/Wotlk/Cataclysm/Retail players adjusted themself to the Classic community and now Classic players want to be selfish and own the game ? Please, your community is a plague.
If you don’t want to adjust you to the Pro-Wotlk players, stay on Classic ERA, the serv that everyone let it empty, the el famoso “best version of WoW” that i read many times.
See my post =>
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You’re provably wrong on multiple accounts. Inventing a narrative and attacking other posts, once sentence at a time (a.k.a out of context) doesn’t change that.
We’ve got 10 years of history and a live server that show RDF is bad and where it leads to.
So show us your level 70 and maybe we’ll talk.
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You just have no real argument about my first post, that’s it.
Imagine getting 10 years of history and still thinking RDF is bad in 2022
As i said, outdated experience.
I don’t need a random lvl 70 to have freedom of expression, even more when i lvlup many character, played on diferent Wotlk serv, played on Classic WoW, TBC.
But you, to talk, you need a real good experience on Wotlk, which you just don’t have.
Again, Classic ERA is this way => 
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How about you give us some examples then?
You know arguments based on memory are useless, because our memory is far from perfect and often plays tricks on us.
And the retail servers have so many other systems added to the game, that you can’t pinpoint anything on the RDF.
Pservers are the only viable experience here, as it’s the same game we are about to receive, with today’s community.
So you’ve ran out of arguments and now you attack him because of his avatar. Even if her doesn’t have a level 70 char so what? Playing on a WotLK pserver is a viable experience so why shouldn’t he tell about it?
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-Buffing the raid changing how it was from back then: go ahead
-Buffing the dungeons changing how wotlk was played compared to back then: go ahead
-Creating an LFG tool that’s similar to what we have in retail to streamline the process of people getting invited into groups: go ahead
-The mere thought of adding RDF: wow wow wow hold up there big boy that’s too far, it’s going to ruin the social aspects that never existed in classic to begin with
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Yes i know. But that will cause a lockout. Using the random function does not lock you to the dungeon.
Which is easy to change, since even every private server can make it work to have heroic ids. Of course its a necessary change to have daily lockout ids for heroics, but its not an argument against RDF, since its easy to just give the dungeons ids until 3.3. After 3.3, with the introduction of fos, pos and hor, players could farm badges without restrictions anyway.
This is why they should work on RDF, to make it have daily lockouts, no additional rewards until 3.3.0 and a checkbox to use or not use crossrealm. Instead they work on this LFG-tool, which they could have as well copy pasted from retail.
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