Apparantly you don’t know. Because you can, with a fully premade group, queue up for a random dungeon as well. Simple as that.
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Yeah these people just don’t read my post and still complain
The whole damn point with classic was not to have stuff like the random dungeon finder. Not having that is a feature that makes classic unique from retail.
Wrong, Blizzard only said that for Classic 2019, and just because of that, you make your own dream that they will custom all future expansion in Vanilla like.
The point of releasing all expansions is providing us the game that we like, and guess what, you don’t like Wotlk so it’s not for you.
The hilarous thing is i can say the same words of your community.
“If you want RDF on Classic or TBC => Go retail”
“If you want this feature you don’t like Classic/TBC => Go retail”
Now i can say the same thing, "If you don’t like RDF, Wotlk is not for you => Go back to Classic ERA, the server you all waited and acclaimed for to finaly abandoned it and which was nevertheless el famoso “the best version of WoW”.
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This is classic…
I love Wotlk.
I remember Wotlk prepatch Echoes of Doom without RDF.
I remember Taking the boat to Northrend at launch doind dungeons without RDF.
I remember Ulduar Secrets of Ulduar without RDF.
I remember Call of the Crusade with the dungeon Trial of the Crusader witout RDF.
And then 14 month later I do remember the Random Dungeon Finder and I have some really horrible memories from that toxic hellhole. For example it being totally impossible to create a group because every one use RDF with a 15% damage/healing buff you only get with strangers.
RDF totally gutted doing dungeons the normal way. And RDF was really horrible and frustrating and just not fun at all. But it was convenient I give it that but it felt like playing with NPCs most of the time and the rest of the time it was very toxic. Not to mention people quitting for any and no reason and small groups of 3 players kicking anyone for any and no reason OR even more frustrating not being able to kick afk players etc etc etc.
Edit, just thinking about this give me anxiety and makes my blood boil.
Do you know what I remember the most vivid. Being in a group with arseholes that kick some guy for asking a question, saying hello, having green gear and similar (yes I have seen those specific things happen among many). Bear in mind, I could be the good guy and vote no, but if 3 other voted yes, mostly without looking or caring about the reason, the guy is getting kicked. And then the new guy entering, knowing someone was kicked, and going afk at door, and there is nothing anyone can do. This would also constantly happen when someone went afk right at the beginning, and then the group of nice people had to kick the afk player, and then the new player also went afk, and now you can’t kick again. Oh and ninja items became the norm, especially from last boss. It also totally gutted questing in the world for new players. Most new players had no idea where they where in the world of Warcraft and where the entrance to the dungeon are that they got teleported to.
Dungeons went from some what of an adventure and social interacting among the community on the server to a toxic hellhole with strangers with no consequences for bad behavior.
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This is Wotlk, classic is a second name meaning it’s the same experience as the first name.
So, RDF is a part of Wotlk.
You loved
I love Wotlk, because I played it over 12 years while you just played it 2 years on it bacl to the old days when everything was diferent.
Read my post, my title and understand was does mean “outdated experience”.
Also i can quote something from other guys here =>
Again, you have an outdated experience that’s why i made this post, to explain why your memories is just an outdated practice and doesn’t work anymore in 2022.
But you too didn’t read isn’t it ?
EDIT : And for
Good point, just delete the buff then. Easy solved, and we don’t need that.
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First of all, this is TBC Classic. TBC Classic is Classic. Classic is classic. Wotlk classic is classic. There are classic and there are retail. This is classic. One of the features with classic is that there is no RDF.
RDF is cross realm. Have you played with RDF over dussins of servers?
Did you play Wotlk retail may I ask?
First of all, we are talking about Wotlk, you wanted Vanilla, you got it. Some players wanted TBC, they got it, many players want Wotlk, they have to got it.
Players don’t waited 4 years to get a ruined experience for some minority players has nothing to do in this game.
Yes, and did you read my first post before asking ?
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We absolutely did NOT get Vanilla. Omg dude.
Why do I get the feeling that you have played some nice custom single realm group finder with a random element and totally forget how RDF actually was and would be with cross realm grouping created by Blizzard?
Why do you get this feeling ?
I’ll explain to you why again.
Because you have an outdated stuck experience while i could see the game and the mentality changed over these years.
Stop looking for a reason to justify your old memories, accept that the game is 100% known and tracked and because of that this is not the same anymore.
Private servers who wanted to try without RDF asked for the community proved that, and guess what, the “You think to do but you don’t” was right.
Classic proved that the mentality changed, you said that, you didn’t get Vanilla.
And i don’t think i have to talk of TBC as it’s worse because the community is less Disneyland mentality.
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Ok just top be 100% clear about what we are talking about.
Have you every on any private server used a Random Group Finder that was cross realm over dussins of servers? Or are we talking about different things here?
What exactly are you asking for?
The real RDF from Wotlk or some other custom system?
No and you know what ? Those server got 10k players, which is 3x more than old retail servers, there is so many diferente players and rerolls that it’s almost impossible to see some players again, so we got the same bad thing.
Except one thing, we could add a players in the friend list and ask him to re tag dungeon, thing that you couldn’t in the past with cross-serv on retail.
But guess what, nobody cares in 2022 to do that, because there is no exploration anymore, there is no discover anymore, everyone know everything on the game, dungeon are easier than the past before because players play better, dungeon is cleaned in 15min and nobody need to create a friend list.
I hope i explained well the fact that old cross serv on retail = big serv today in 2022 and the fact that we don’t need to create a friend list anymore.
And again, you can disable the cross-serv and again
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I honestly can’t tell if you are serious right now.
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You know i am, you just don’t have anything to counter argument.
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I’m ready for an adventure in Northrend and you make it sound like some boring job and a chore to complete again, sight, how dull. That’s how you make it sound.
We are not playing the same game.
And your arguments are really bad and you don’t even ask for RDF from Wotlk. You are asking from some arbitrary custom system you have not defined that may or may not work for classic.
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Oh… It seems I woke you up from a sweet dream. Playing without RDF is boring yes, and as i said before, many players tried it and you know… the famous “You think you do but you don’t” was right.
Mistake, you haven’t played the game in 12 years, i have.
The way you talk seems you never played on private server and I seem to be an alien to you. I never saw someone saying that like you.
Who cares about a arbitratry custom system ? We already got that on many thing since Classic because it’s not the same client.
Who cares about a RDF without cross-serv ?
The important things for pro Wotlk like us is to get RDF, cross-serv or not, we don’t care, if it’s better for you to not get it, ok then.
If you juge my argument bad just because i offer you a solution that can resolve a problem with a ridiculous customisation of the tools, you are just a troll.
The LFG system that we have now is imported from retail and customised for Wotlk Classic, but for you it’s not a problem apparently.
bad faith
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You have not been playing with Wotlk RDF though.
Are we talking about Wotlk RDF or some other custom system?
Is this an argument for the Dungeon Finder? I feel like you could use these exact words in favour of the changes Blizzard intend.
Many players no doubt think so, but not everyone does. That’s why it is important to keep Retail and Classic separate.
No it does not, you dont que for specific dungeon, you que for RDF, just with premade group …
Its funny how people fighting against RDF know absolutely nothing about RDF …
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First, i’m not here to argument why RDF should come back, i’m only here to prove argument per argument of purist vanilla players are wrong.
Second, check my first post.
The important is to keep every expansion has it was, not to tranform every expansion in Vanilla like.
Of course they don’t know nothing, that why they are complaining, if they knew what is RDF in 2022, they would just given up and stop dreaming.
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