What about “we are discussing the present” is so hard for you to understand?
Right now its only you and your toddlers temper tantrum
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What about data is so hard for you to understand?
Says the person who went full on crazy attack mode after one comment with information that you where wrong 13hours ago with proof.
And even now only with a massive amount of farming are you even close because the ability to get what you need to make the sims right is bugged
The mythic+ bis list on wowhead is items that come FROM mythic+. Not items that are good FOR mythic+…
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The data that doesnt agree with you? It sims bis for everybody right now even without the max ilvl ring.
I said you linked outdated data. YOU then went on to call me names. So yes, you went into a toddlers temper tantrum and not me.
Also the guy we were talking to kept his assessment of the rings power level even AFTER the hotfix for the gems being available
Separate issue. Not what we discuss. For the third time.
Even if you manage to find a spec where it isnt bis yet (like I assumed Demo lock as stated above) then thats the exception, not the rule.
The Sims aren’t bugged either btw. They have to do a bit of a workaround for the skippers gem because a major part of why it’s good is that it procs the “buff 4 other people” effect without needing the buff gem equipped. This means you’re getting a boatload of stats from the other 4 group members using that gem too.
In solo content you lose this interaction, so on dummies or out in the world it’s not as good and you should run highest stat gem or skip the ring altogether. But in group PvE content that interaction makes the skipper gem and therefore the ring extremely good.
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This is the worst content patch in wow history, also upcoming changes could literally just be a hotfix, but they plan to time gate it instead.
For what upcoming changes i mean those on next patch.
So in translation: The combination isnt bis for Solo play potentially. But for solo play I would rather use stuff like the instant damage procs anyway rather than a stat buff just for the occasional instagib on a mob. And for stuff like Zekvir even a healing setup because the damage doesnt matter if the spider dies in time.
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Shuddering Hollow is bugged. Some folk are getting their gems but it seems most are not. If Stalag charges the ramp no credit is given for completing the bonus event, although the mob is to lootable.
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That would be the selfie cam in WoD, please stop with the hyperbole and such blatant fibs.
Yeah it’s bugged. I shard hopped a bit to get it done. Others have said if you do it once, and it bugs don’t loot it, then immediately loot the old body once the next stalag event starts.
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I heard “once it bugs u reset the boss, and pull it through wall when new event pops up” (quote). Try that and see if it works if you can.
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Will do, thanks.
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Interesting. Imma share that too.
At least the selfie cam was functional and is still useful unlike the ring.
The ring is useful not matter how many times you try to debunk it for all classes apart from demo atm and it will be good for your pala prot main which has been proven by 4 people now with actual data please stop trolling me and threating me btw thank you.
Even with you deleting posts the mods can still read them and act on them btw.
Ring is very useful, just people are struggling to get a single bugged gem.
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It seems even buggier now. The last two tries I had on my Pally, about half the players were ported out and the cave closed. Don’t think it was taunted out or charged out either.
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Appears to be BiS even for demo. Given, I only yeeted the highest ranked m+ demo into the sim so who knows.
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Well thats good to know thank you 
Blizz could you tell the Shuddering Hollow that we are allowed to get gems, instead of making the WQ/Objective disappear part way through killing the boss.
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