For Elune’s sake can you stop changing subject? Just admit it, the Horde started the Fourth war by comminting massive genocide against the night elf people, killing children, women and innocent men, then they lost the war. Stop acting so surprised that the Alliance finnaly struck a blow against you after your your faction were the aggressors since WC1.
I can see why some Blood Elves find you embarrassing.
Look. The Alliance exists BECAUSE of the Horde. As one of the powers strong enough to not just challenge the Horde but defeat them and keep them in check.
I will explain it this way. Gilneas was once a neutral nation that chose independence so when the Horde attacked them they stood alone. Their conflict had nothing to do with the Alliance. Although now they are refugees but the Night Elves took them in since it is Night Elf Druidism (the pack form) that created the Worgen curse in the first place.
The Alliance wounding / dealing with the Zandalar menace has nothing to do with the Horde. Horde forces in Zulduzar city was simply in the way or chose to interfere with another independent nations business. The crowning of Talanji and acceptance into the Horde. Makes further clashes against the Zandalari a Horde conflict.
Vengeful Zandalari trolls would understand that their actions could risk breaking the peace treaty between Alliance and Horde.
But things prior membership among the Horde once again. Is none of the Horde’s business. Stormwind and Ironforge will stand strong against whatever the Horde has to throw at it.
But Horde leadership will not allow the more overzealous and bloodthirsty Horde to mount any kind of large enough force to be anything more than a gankfest farming Horde players that found themselves in the wrong neighbourhood.
Besides who would lead such a force? Sylvanas understood that only under Saurfang the Horde army came together. But her actions dishonoured them all.
Only the Forsaken would have marched the burning of Teldrassil took more than the Forsaken had and even then the bulk of the Alliance military was absent.
Baine Bloodhoof a traitor? Look when the faction that talks about Honour, Saurfang / Garrosh Hellscream: “Honour. No matter how dire the battle. Never forsake it”. Was heading further down the path of the Scourge. Baine was one of the few voices among the Horde that tried to preserve its honour and he suffered because of it.
The other Horde leadership lived in fear and despite objections followed Sylvanas.
Vol’jin also opposed the path the Horde was walking. But he was betrayed by the very Horde that he fought for that he would have and eventually did die to protect. It was Horde blades that stabbed Vol’jin in the back.
Be honest with yourself blood elf. You seek a reason or excuse to come at the Alliance.
That is very honourable of you, son o’ the mountains. But we’re still not a kingdom. u.u
There is footage of the Winter Queen of Ardenweald. Some of the Night Elf dead will give their souls to create a new World tree. But its location is unknown as of yet.
Should it be in the Dragon Ilses the Horde will use that as an excuse for expansion.
But there are a lot of refugees. Light forged Draenai - Night Elves - Gilneans - Gnomes - Void Elves.
Maghar Orcs.
Repopulation efforts could be a challenge. But would make use of the old world with new stories.
Like the tidesages and Kul Tirans seeking immerseus who once fed the lands of Pandaria with clean water full of life. To try and cleanse the plagued territories.
Talanji having a public relations campaign. For the past actions of Zhul and other Zandalari. Also resettlement efforts. As troll tribes that are not part of the Horde will not accept the Zandalari’s membership.
he’s back! never seen this topic.
ALLIANCE WINS EREVIEN!! for andorhal and theramore!!!
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The Horde didn’t start anything. It was the alliance who attacked us unprovoked back in Legion. Specifically Genn in Stormheim. What Sylvanas did was fair retaliation. If Blizzard wasn’t alliance bias you would have lost the war. Because that is all what you deserve. Being crushed under out boots.
The only refugees on this list are the Mag’har. All alliance allied races have a home actually. Stop lying.
So you admit that the Zandalari are ruined beyond repair and that the Horde council betrayed them?
That is not needed. Once she is dead the war against alliance can continue.
They tried to get their lands back from humans and elves. Nothing wrong with that.
Yes. In Lordaeron and Stormwind.
Vol’jin was an idiot. He made sound Sylvanas’ acension meaningful only to back dial 5 minutes later. He better stays dead where he can’t hurt the troll narrative.
Bfa gave me plenty of it. I don’t need to make it up. Alliance got far too many undeserved victories. We need parity for that. No other game treats their factions this awful. Golden and all the other writers are alliance biased.
Yes traitor. You don’t show honor to an enemy who wants you eradicated.
Those cities will burn and we will use your corpses to build another path of glory.
There is no peace treaty we have to respect. This treaty is highly illegal and was signed by leaders who don’t care about the wellbeing of their people. Only about alliance scum feelings. I will burn the parchement and march directly on everything you hold dear.
At least you admit you attacked a sovereign nation unprovoked. We will have vengeance for Rastakhan. Even if we have to do it on our own if the cowards of the Horde council won’t help us.
I am the last true blood elf. All those other fake players have chosen to comply with alliance bias and an unfair lore that only favors the blue team in every aspect.
Yeah that is all the Horde will ever be good for for Blizzard. A sidekick nobody cares about. In Dragonflight once again alliance lore characters get screentime while the Horde is ignored. Check your privilige.
Riiiight. They totally didn’t invade Azeroth through a demonic portal. Ahuh ahuh.
i mean if we are getting the blame for the previous horde then Arthas and such is totally on you 
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The genocide of an entire race is a fair retaliation for a gunship attack?
The horde truly is disgusting.
You can’t attack the head of state of a nation and expect no reaction from it. Next time tell your lapdog Genn he needs to get over himself.
And you can’t take a son from a father.
I understand that anything outside of the Horde is not your concern.
However Gilneas is still plagued as is Night Elves. Gnomes that was their blunder but they are guests at the Mechagnomes home.
The Maghar was conquered by Yrel and her forces. There is no home to return to for them.
What are you talking about? Zandalari still have Zulduzar. They just have to heal from the wounds left by the Alliance. With the Horde membership they would do in time.
Her death will be a problem for Horde internal relations.
Stormwind is already home of the humans. The Gilneans would make…interesting neighbours. Should they regain the strength they once had as an independent nation and one of the strongest human kingdoms.
Lordaeron is gone. The living Lordaeron survivors accept this and have moved on. It is just a place of death plague and blight.
Baine is no traitor. His friendship with Anduin is…cautiously observed. As is his actions in violating Derek Proudmoore. Who joined the Horde that tormented him.
The Horde leadership does not agree with you.
More Horde internal conflicts. Is not an Alliance concern. The blood thirsty Horde vs the peace wanting Horde.
Earlier you spoke of the Zandalari unprovoked attack an Alliance fleet that was pursuing an escaped prisoner. Now you pretend that military actions that constitute an act of war should not go unanswered. The Alliance lives lost the ships sunk.
Where are the rational Horde members?
Endless war is something that is not sustainable. There could be some blood elfs that don’t want to clash with their Void Elf bretheren.
You are not paying attention. Shadowlands was quite literally the Sylvanas expansion. Other racial leaders were literally sat down in Oribos doing nothing.
Battle for Azeroth was caused by the Horde and pushed more Horde shenanigans, Warlords of Draenor was reliving the glory days of the old Horde leaders.
Compared to what? Arthas a rogue prince that went all Undead and had to be reigned in.
All of those defenceless civilians unable to defend themselves against a Horde drunk on demon blood. Which simply amplified what was already there. The ancestors of the Maghar are proof of that.
Murdered in life and fuel for the fel in death. Why would an Alliance be necessary. 
Yes yes. Arthas who under the initial influence of Warchief Nerzhul’s spirit went dark side and then continued the path.
But the Alliance came to handle the mess. In time.
Lok’tar my fellow Sin’dorei, I agree.
We must wipe the Alliance, they trample all over us, this useless “horde council” doesn’t represent us!
P.S.: Kill all those pesky Alliance players you see in the open world, they wont hesitate to gang up 5v1 against you!!
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That is Horde tactics. In similar numbers Horde are defeated 7 out of 8 times.
What is this Alliance propaganda you’re trying to spread?!
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Horde can’t 1 v 1.
No propaganda just what you see in game.
That is not the point. If you try to kill a faction leader that is basically a declaration of war. Genn’s actions were enough justification to have a counter attack against the alliance.
I know. That is something that possibly sends you high doesn’t it? Seeing any Horde race suffer? You alliance supremacists are all the same.
The night elves took darkshore back, the gnomes share mechagon city with the mecha gnomes. The lightforged have the Vindicaar and the void elves have telogrus. The Vulpera and Mag’har however have nothing. Once again the Horde gets the shaft from Blizzard.
Draenor will be taken back one day. And all the remaining Dranei genocided.
Alliance bias is directly responsible for the suffering of the Horde. Until that problem is not adressed by Blizzard I will continue my fight.
The Zandalari have nothing. The attack of the alliance ruined them beyond repair.
The Horde has done nothing from them. ONly denying them vengance. That Talanji went to the wedding of Bob and Walmart Elisande shows how weak the is.
It is not the Horde’s concern what the Zandalari due in internal polititcs.
For the Forsaken. The Horde ceded control over Silverpine and Hillsbrad for the sake of peace. The desolatce council are as muchg traitors to their nation as the entire Horde council is. They screw over thei people to get laid by human potential.
Because the Horde leadership are a bunch of alliance stooges.
He should have died. Period.
Derek is alliance. The Forsaken don’t want him. Give us back Sylvanas and Nathanos.
Those who want peace are a tiny group of elite with priviliges that would go away if they cut their ties to the alliance. The entire Horde council must be executed.
It was already an act of war when they inprisoned Talanji in the first place. If you don’t want retaliation fo such things you shouldn’t try to sink her ship. Alliance have no one to blame but themselves.
Gone when Sylvanas left.
The void elves who sided with the alliance will die too. Especially that scum Umbric. I will enjoy burning him on a pyre on the silvermoon market place.
Shadowlands was once again all about Anduin, Jaina and Tyrande. There was no Horde involvement.
WoD was killing all legendary Orc heroes of the past for a second time. Alliance bias excellence.
Jaina had more cinematics in Bfa then any other characters. And No, the Saurfang ones don’t count.
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