All tanks except Protection Paladin useless in Mythic+

You are logged in on a Gnome Monk.

was your response when asked about what the spec the healer was.

So based on the information you gave you would be the healer then.

And yet you play with a Monk healer a none meta healer a healer that based on everything you have said here should not work but you MUST use the meta tank or nothing else would work.

I still don’t get how you jumped to that conclusion. Multiple people can be gnome monks at the same time. I specified in the original post that I’m the tank. I literally do not understand your confusion.

Additionally, the monk healer is just one of his alts.

So you are fine with an Alt on a NONE meta spec doing the content.
But you feel like you NEED the prot paladin in the group because of meta.
While the reality is that BDK can do the content fine.

There is just as much a meta about healers this season as there is about tanks.
To give you an idea there is a total of 200 more mistweaver monk that has done 15 then Blood dks.
If you are fine with Mistweaver you should be fine with Blood dk

Sure, it would be possible to do the content with Holy Priest plus Brewmaster Monk even. What’s your point?

Stop playing with that healer he is dumb

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Ahh man… its RShaman whining all over again.

These people never stop.

How can you give such advice? You don’t know him.

Because he is telling you dumb things and you trust him instead of playing your main the thing you will play better.
I do not need to know him to know the things he is telling you is dumb.

Why is he not playing Disc priest or at least Resto Shaman?
Why are you accepting that from him while he tells you to change character instead of him playing meta.

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I play all my tanks equally well and I still can’t detect these “dumb things” he supposedly said according to you, but feel free to explain.

Cool then you should STOP listening to stupid person like him and play what you want to play.
he is wrong you do not need prot paladin for interupts he can learn to use his interupt

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I play what I want, he plays what he wants and we both use our interrupts as optimally as possible at all times. I don’t understand your incoherent rambling.

He want´s you to play meta so he has an easy time, but isn´t playing meta himself, thereby effectively invalidating his desire to force it on other players.

Why is it the simple concepts like this that you always dismiss as gibberish, while yourself connecting dots across 5 galaxies to present your daily boogeyman of choice is somehow supposed to be self explanatory for everyone? :rofl:?

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Then why would you even make this forum thread?
You are now just wrong in even making this thread.

And understand that you now are saying that the very first post you made here the very reason you made this forum thread you are now saying is a lie and not true.

Then you do not need a prot paladin for +11 stop the lies.
And you are even saying you do not need it yet you present it as if you 100% need it no matter the key level.

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I don’t see how any contents presented by me in this topic have been disproven. Everything I said is true. I have never claimed that you need a Protection Paladin no matter the key level. I have no idea where you got this fantasy from. You can probably do some +2s with a team of 5 boomkins.

That is because you are unwilling to take information in.
You do not want to understand the topic you have at hand at all.
And fyi you do not even understand why prot paladin is meta in the first place.
The tools you are complaining about has existed from shadowlands all of them.

No it is not.

All of this is just wrong.

And here you are talking about a dungeon where in a +11 you can take literally 1 caster mob of the web bolt at the time if you want to do it that way.
In a +11 Monk has so much healing that you can even have it go off and the monk can easily heal it if they are at all competent at the healing role.

Numbers under here is cherry picking you choose a dungeon difficulty where most people are not doing.
If we change it to healer instead of looking at tanks
The list is:
65.5% Disc priest
26.4% Resto shaman
4.6% mistweaver monk The thing is that this is only 413 characters.
1.8% resto druid
0.8% holy paladin
0.6% Pres evoker
and 0.3% holy priest this is 30

You are talking about a total player pool of each role tank and heal of around 9000people (so around 18000 people total for all healers and all tanks doing 15 and up.)

Now compare that to the 10-11 range where brewmaster monk alone is 102 112 characters.

You where talking about doing a key of a 11 not a key of 15, yet you tried to present data for 15s and up.
it DOES NOT MATTER what you play.
Trying to frame it as if the only tank you can play now is prot paladin is stupid talk and only dumb people actually believe that for a +11.
And if it is only for the Web bolt cast in ara kara you can easily deal with that as a group or even a duo of you and the healer.

It absolutely matters what you play. Feel free to play any tank you want, but realize that you will be useless compared to a Protection Paladin, because he is the best at everything.

When a Brewmaster, a Blood Death Knight and a Protection Paladin apply to your key, you would be stupid not to take the Protection Paladin. There is no reason to take any other tank if you have the choice between three similar players. They are all undesired compared to the master of m+.

Finally, I don’t think you realize how huge the pulls in +10s to +12s get. You were talking about one caster at a time? Is your grandma pulling? There will be at least 5 of them and the Protection Paladin will handle all of them, no problem.

I am stupid, i take the brew. Way easier to heal, and less chance of pressing 1 wrong global and out of nothing flops over because of stagger mechanic. I dislike bloods anyway to heal, so i prefer never playing with those.

Yes i do. I time 12’s with a guardian druid.

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So you are just being bad then is what i have to conclude when you say this as it is not true by just small changes in tuning.

Literally 1 month ago Prot paladin was the worst tank in M+ 100% of the utility it brings now existed then.
Somethings have become easier to get but you had the ability to get it.
The one main thing that prot paladin got was damage.
If having or not having damage makes you the worst spec for the task or the best spec for it you are not the master of m+ period.

I do not think you understand how little you need to time those keys.
Play clean and you can 2 even 3chest ara kara without doing any fancy pull

That is wrong you normally take about 2 of them.
if you get 5 you are pulling so far away from each other that you are very not effective dps wise.

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Stop talking rubbish. There is no way on earth one prot paladin can lock down 5 casters.

Your posts are going from the sublime to the absolute ridiculous.

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  1. You don’t need weekly 11, 10 will do
  2. 10s can be completed with 605-610 ilvl comfortably
  3. 15s are meta realm, data for 15s doesn’t mean anything for your 10 weekly runs
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