All tanks except Protection Paladin useless in Mythic+

why are you ignoring the fact that the paladin has recently been severely weakened in terms of damage, and the fact that the monk’s debuff gives a high increase to the group’s damage?
and anyway, it doesn’t matter, because the damage is close, and it was all to the fact that not everything is so simple is determined only by the high damage of the tank.

You did though? You stated you have a 637 bdk, its not 637. Thats a lie, and thats proven. Anything else, or do you choose to simply admit you lied?

It may not be the biggest lie in existence, but a lie nonetheless.

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You have shown yourself that Protection Paladin is stronger even AFTER the nerfs, so why would I need to ignore that part?

Mystic Touch is very weak at the moment, because most of the top dps classes like Enhancer, Augmentation, Frosties or even Assassins deal most of their damage with non-physical abilities. Not even mentioning all the top tier classes that don’t benefit from Mystic Touch at all, like Boomkins or Frost Mages.

Compare that to the amazing Sacred Weapon of Protection Paladin, which is a much stronger damage buff that can be applied to the strongest dps in the group, no matter which spec. You can’t beat that.

Showed you what ? the fact that in half of the dungeons, the maximum damage from a monk is higher than that of any paladin ?

just one of the best monks is playing in a group with a warrior who has almost all the damage - physical. and an increase from the monk’s debuff from this warrior alone can give about 50-100k dps.

this buff has already been taken into account in the paladin’s damage on the site, but the monk’s debuff for other dds is not. It is not difficult to calculate how much this debuff gives to the group.

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Well, earlier you said that Protection Paladin is strongest in 3 dungeons and that Brewmaster is strongest in the other 5 dungeons. Later, you (not me) showed the top dps numbers for one of those 5 dungeons in which Brewmaster was supposed to be the strongest, but instead Protection Paladin was the strongest.

It’s great that one of the best Brewmasters is buffing up his Warrior friend, but that doesn’t help all the other classes that don’t benefit at all now, does it? I would like to see him play with 3 Warriors for fun though.

Yes, it’s very easy to calculate the damage bonus of Mystic Touch in most cases, which is close to zero.

Why are you writing all this? yes, I looked, and saw that in 5 out of 8 dungeons, the monk is stronger in damage, taking into account his debuff. OK, even if there is no physical dd in the group at all, let it be not quite accurate, it does not change the essence in any way.

and what is this written for? why are there 3 warriors in a group, if even one warrior gives a DPS boost from the monk’s debuff such that the monk outstrips the paladins in damage in half of the dungeons?

that is, you yourself say that the difference in DPS between a paladin and a monk is close to zero, since you were talking about a difference of about 100k.

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So every time a Protection Paladin does more damage than a Brewmaster Monk you are just going to say that Brewmaster Monk is still better because of Mystic Touch. Okay. Got it.

did you make such a conclusion when I wrote several times that in half of the dungeons the paladin gives more DPS, even taking into account the monk’s debuff? )

Wait, it’s half the dungeons now? You said in 5 out of 8 dungeons the Brewmaster Monk is dominating dps. Is the Mystic Touch hype dying already?

You said this, you said that, where is your apology for lying?

What lie? You are lying about me lying.

Am i? The evidence is right there though? That you chose to ignore it is on you. Everyone here now knows you are a liar that uses made up narratives to fit themself, until you admit you lied about your ilvl and apologize.

Every comment you make now without acknowledging this only feeds the fact that you know you are wrong and you know you lied, because that is the only reason someone would choose to ignore concrete evidence.

Okay. I actually have to correct myself a little bit. My BDK has 638 ilvl now after the vault opening. It’s no longer 637.

Looking at your keys done i see quite some dungeons where also rogues and hunters are around, so i would not call it “close to zero”.

But obviously it can be very true Prot pala is doing the most damage on the highest keys available with the pulls they are doing. I would not care about it on progression +11 keys though.

Rogues don’t deal much physical damage. They are mainly poisoning everyone these days. Don’t insult them by implying they still only stab people. Also, it seems that Hunters have become creatures of the void.

Link your dk please? And provide proof that you didnt just list a random one. With your current behaviour i have no reason to trust you, and more than enough reason to believe the people that did research and found your dk.

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Only bm in m+, dunno which specs you played with, but just mentioning that.

Hunters are so void you can take one of each spec for +11’s :grin:

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-1/19122264-11-mists-of-tirna-scithe

I am also doing all my current highest key with a hunter.

What a coincidence, so am i! Oh wait, thats me.

That is a problem with the changes they made to caster mobs which should be reverted.

I wonder how your friend will feel when you got no anti magic zone to drop for the group, or combat resing being much harder or when a dps stuns a caster you are trying to group in and your avenger shield is on cooldown and it’s there free casting.

The web bolt is on elite mob. Your healer and dps can help interrupt. Oh… is he a priest? Time to reroll shaman. It has more interrupts. Nothing else will be meta, right?

Honestly, you seem to be bullied easily.