Alliance has outnumbered the horde, yet they still cry!

PVP War Mode and World PvP
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So… i don’t know how and why, but from my “play” perspective, as a horde player, i am always outnumbered. I gathered these screenshots in the last 2 weeks, so that i can bring some proofs, not only sh#t talk like all alliance players that cry here.
Maybe i am the most UNLUCKY horde player or maybe this is real: alliance indeed outnumbers horde…but i am always outnumbered in WM. Either a GM from Blizz hates my shamy and “relocates” my char in a alliance dominated shard or it is really as the title say. Lets start:

  • War Supply Chest:
    https:// gyazo .com/31795309b573f9478ba427367de6363a

  • Battle for Nazjatar:
    https:// gyazo .com/1a3a4a6c832622c172bea3c18030d81a

  • Azerite Quest in Drustvar:
    https:// gyazo .com/989c5500834877bd348cc067ad6c9957

  • Mechagon rare:
    https:// gyazo .com/9292c60fb73b852b73e1f888eff7336b

  • Multi-Boxer in Stormsong Valley:
    https:// gyazo .com/08a96cac56cdf1de11ff4445c21db188
    https:// gyazo .com/d83f96efd2f174e55caaa1427acd26be

  • Groups during invasions:
    https:// gyazo .com/25abe654e6662f0155e184fdc64b143f

  • This one is interesting: a conversation with a ally rogue that is happy atacking me in Nazmir 2 vs 1 ( i had no chance to survive anymore, because a idiot though its a good ideea to _nerf GW to 25%, making almost half year of gear farming useless):
    https:// gyazo .com/79ab27cc03a9177f0545732ea8e028b6
    https:// gyazo .com/05ddcdc16a1f11f58b0a1bd549780f43
    https:// gyazo .com/62281c677ef4eba464bb624ee73f0b41
    https:// gyazo .com/2294296a137f18f786bf3252d70c7b5d
    https:// gyazo .com/aa40b2d2278e554399c1f74b7cb0c931
    https:// gyazo .com/accd1e75ef670dea27ad0878aa3f640b
    https:// gyazo .com/a0311a490cfe041f47b4545974a0e94c
    So it started like this: i was alone at azerite invasion wq in Nazmir, questing, this rogue came with a warrior, obviously they killed me. Then i added him, provoked him to see his reaction and wanted revenge 1v1. He refused and when i came back he was already gone. So i got pissed off and i searched him and found him on the port in Nazmir (the 12 alliance npc quest), alone and i killed him. Then the guy started to insult me with the words you see in the screenshots. I have a few more saved, but thoose insults are very rude, he started to insult my mother,family and so on…so i decided that one example is enough.
    …
    So this is the alliance:
    A bunch of cowards players that atack only in groups, that don’t have honor, don’t have ethics, they don’t care that they disrupt other’s people gameplay, they don’t give a sh#t. Every time, not one single exception, since december 2018 when i enabled WM untill today (i never turn it off, except that march’s AOO for 1 day,because i couldn’t do nothing), i never saw a alliance player atacking me 1v1. Never it happend in the last 8 months. Every time alliance atacked me only when they had number superiority.

Now let me show you a example of how horde players behaves:
https:// gyazo .com/85d638efd046985ebbb481488191b611
READ THE CHAT IN THIS SCREENSHOT.
We could easy kill him and tag the rare, yet we decided that is unfair and we left him in peace. That’s a normal attitude and the knowledge to make difference between wpvp and bullying.

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But, you have the guts to come on forum,after you insult and disrupt our gameplay for your “amusement” and cry that you are still outnumbered. Well, it seems you are not. A outnumbered group of players don’t behave like this: zerg and wipe everything in their path and spreads f#cks in left and right.
I hope theese screens prooves what types of players the alliance has. Also, if we look in the forum, we will see that the most “toxic” and “ironical” replies come from alliance players.
You guys should reconsider your attitude and behaviour.
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Here i got a screen with my reputations, to proove that 70% of my play-time is world content and my WM experience is a hell for me as a “solo” player and sometimes i am forced to do LFG so that i can complete some objectives.
https:// gyazo .com/87d1cf599bd53aa338ee2893c52dad06
But i won’t turn it OFF. Because, events like the example with the rogue gives me a lot of satisfaction. To revenge on someone who think’s that he is superior when in reality he is just a trash. For thoose 10% ocasions, i won’t.
Stop crying on forums that you are outnumbered. YOU ARE NOT. Its a lie. And you know it, i know it, everyone knows it.
P.S. : AT EACH SCREENSHOT REMOVE THE SPACE BETWEEN // AND gyazo AND THE SPACE BETWEEN gyazo AND .com , SO THAT YOU CAN ACCESS THE LINK.

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You seem to have spent some time doing this, but from my experience, the Horde do indeed outnumber the alliance. Sometimes I get lucky and I’m placed into a wpvp shard with more alliance than horde, but that’s pretty rare. Alliance have a 30% warmode bonus for a reason, you know.

Most of the time the faction inbalance is noticeable while camping for a WQ rare. There’s usually so many horde that you need to wait 1-2 kills before you can muster enough alliance and take positions to camp the spawn. Yesterday, I had to wait over 10 minutes on each rare until there were +4 alliance and we could swoop in and make sure that the Horde wouldn’t overwhelm us when the rare spawned.

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People need to stop making complaints about Horde pop vs Alliance and Alliance pop vs Horde, because it differs from server to server. It’s not a universal thing.
For example, on my server, Alliance dominate horde in population by around 170.37%, but on another server it may be around the other way.
If the populations bother anyone so much, then swap realms

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I agree with Papudeath, we have 30% bonus, and just now I jumped 3 different Battle for Nazjatar groups to 3 different LOSING battles.

You’re probably unlucky or playing at an unpopular time for Horde. Not sure if that’s even a thing, but I feel that there is more Alliance in the EU night.

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You’re totally right, if only we were back in the days when crossrealm was not a thing. Nowadays you’re totally wrong.

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If you think that different people are playing for the alliance and for the horde, then I have very bad news for you. Go and play yourself for the alliance and look at these “adult” and “honest” players who play for the horde. The same people play for the horde and alliance. And you obviously have bad luck, when I play for the horde in 90% of cases I am in shard in which the horde dominates the alliance and the horde always takes the chest and kills all the rares.

And by the way, recently I did quests in the Mechagon playing for the alliance. So the horde gathered a raid to kill rares and alliance players on its way. I also wanted to take revenge on some of these gankers and I tracked them one by one when they fought off the group. And you know what? All these “fair” horde players ran like pussies from me to their group. And as soon as they reached the group, they attacked me with the whole group of 5+ against 1. Yeah, the horde knows for sure what an honest battle is.

I did the weekly quest “kill 25 players in the Mechagon” 4 times, 2 times for the horde and 2 times for the alliance. And nobody wanted 1 vs. 1 battles, everyone ran away from me and attacked me only if there were more of them.

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This cannot be more true.
People are all the same, there are nice players in both factions, there are not that nice people in both factions too.

It’s just about being outnumbered.

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So how come , since december untill today i am every day unlucky? What chances are that always i am on a shard full with allies? Daily?

Well, i got plenty of screens that prooves exactly the oposite. Mechagon is dominated by alliance. Nazjatar…same.

I am not making complain…although now i should. Especially after 8 months of pacience. But the ideea is that it pisses me off when i see so much crying regarding the fact that the Horde outnumbers the Alliance…and here they are…pictures say more than a thousands words.

Every day unlucky? xD
I play all times: sometimes night, sometimes day, morning, afternoon, depends. In all times, i see more alliance around me than horde at a ratio of at least 5:1, if not more.

The last screenshot in the list prooved how 2 random horde players behave. And yes, i agree that some horde players behave like i described above. But i didnt saw so many. Most of cases when we are more horde than alliance in a location (elite wq, mini-boss, normal wq), we leave 70% of times the alliance in peace. On the other hand, when i go to a location and i am outnumbered at least 2:1 , they instantly atack me. I dont know if i can say that 20% of ocasions i was left alone.
Thats from my experience.

Very few classes can defeat a DH in wpvp (i am not talking about pro arenas or players). Obviously, due to the ridiculous self-heal, the DH is almost invincible in a 1v1 duel. So it has no sense to fight a DH.
Same happend before Blizz nerfed shaman’s GW. Nobody woulded fight a 1v1 vs a shaman. Now, everyone is willing…when they turned him again in a paper hero.

Its not the same. Yeah, some, a percentage, i dont know , maby 20-30% …but as i said above, majority of hordes in encountered behaved quite decent and didnt abused the system like the other side does.

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So how come , since december untill today i am every day unlucky? What chances are that always i am on a shard full with allies? Daily?

I do not face such a problem, I always see more hordes and very rarely when I see that the entire zone is filled with an alliance. Maybe there is a problem with the server that you are on? Maybe your server in some really bad group?

Because by default, some servers are in different groups (but I’m not sure). Of course, thanks to the LFG tool, you can be on any server, but by default it seems to me that you are placed in some kind of your own server group. For example, playing on Kazzak server, I often see that most of the players of the alliance are from the Silvermoon server. And when I play for an alliance on Silvermoon, I see mostly horde players from Kazzak server. Very rarely when I see Horde from some other servers.

we leave 70% of times the alliance in peace.

When I play for the horde (most of the time), it happens that I do quests alone, surrounded by 3+ players of the alliance, and they often don’t touch me either. The problem begins when there is a demon hunter among them (same happens when I play for the alliance), these DH “heroes” jump on you immediately and provoke other players to attack you too.

Very few classes can defeat a DH in wpvp

I do not play now for this character. Players fled from my paladin / mage / dk / druid.

Its not the same. Yeah, some, a percentage, i dont know , maby 20-30% …but as i said above, majority of hordes in encountered behaved quite decent and didnt abused the system like the other side does.

I have other statistics. I met a lot of good players of the alliance who did not attack me with a whole group and met the same among the hordes. But even among the alliance and the horde, I met those who attacked me only with a whole group. It happens equally, there is no “horde does it more often” or “the alliance does it more often.”

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Youve literally just described what happens to me except the other way around. Id say 2 out of 10 times i kill horde in wpvp, often in 1v1 and i get a random level 1 sending me messages worse than the ones you got sent and this frequently happens to me. Ive played since vanilla both alliance and horde and theres people like that on both sides but since bfa ive seen a huge increase in horde sending me these messages off level ones cause i killed them. Yesterday i killed a rogue in mechagon 1v1 i ended the fight with full health so he sent me messages off a level 1 accusing me of hacking getting out of all his CC then blocked me so i couldnt reply.

Also to add many times ive had horde do nothing then attack me when i start on a rare mob or when other horde turns up so dont think its something only ally do cause horde always do it

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Stop arguing its me on diferent accounts, im all the horde and alliance.

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Why didn’t you told us? At least now we know…

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I killed you on my war in Nazh last night :sunglasses:

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AD-DB-SCW shard is actually Alliance majority yet they get the 30% here too. Two things to say about that.

First get rid of the bonuses, they’re just ruining WM, both for the Horde and the Ally. I usually look players up if they attack people in groups, they’re usually not the best in terms of honor or kills, or even BG wins. Is this what our WPvP community should be? No, but if you give people incentives they’ll just often go for them because people just like getting more.
I don’t know how about you but I want to play with players who want to play warmode because they play warmode. These people just go for bonuses and rely on numerical advantage.

Second thing is solution to that numerical advatage. One thing I’d say to that servers at this point are basically obsolete. Im not saying its good thing I’m not saying its bad thing but its a thing we should get over. Now the reason why I’m saying this is, there is very little Ally players in EU servers, now I just so happen to have lot of Alliance players here. Cant Blizzard engineer it out?

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Had a boomkin attack me and I just ignored him but couldn’t figure out why after ignoring me so long he suddenly attacked me? Well eventually I got sick of it and jumped on him to scare him off (I don’t like to combat low IL players) and a rogue popped out of stealth, 2 other Horde landed ontop of me etc. and in 5 seconds it was 1vs8

But every time I came across him alone, nothing! Didn’t dare, he only dared to tickle me (yes damage was low) when he knew he Horde around him. It’s also why I don’t fight back anymore in most shard, the vast majority are in favour of Horde and attacking one is a death sentence even if it’s in self-defense… I just think “Yeah, yeah I know. 90% is Horde here, just kill me already and leave me alone. Im not blind I can see your safety group closeby anyhow… Save us both the time.”

It’s sad such a mentality but when you’re massivly outnumbered on nearly every shard you don’t really have a choice.

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allience pussy cant fight fair fight so theny raid group theny know cant win

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Oh that explains why Alliance have a consistent 30% Warmode bonus?

Ah…wait.

It doesn’t. In fact, as long as you see 15%, you can automatically assume you’re never outnumbered but rather ran into a group of Alliance at the wrong time.

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i’d suggest stop throwing boulders in glass houses but the house is already destroyed by now.

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Horde is a faction filled with players that LITERALLY are handicapped unless they have back up.

Ask the Hunter and Rogue I just killed.

Hunter chased me, started getting wrecked.

Rogue jumped in, rogue got destroyed.

Hunter barely managed to kill me.

Came back, violated hunter.

Horde is a trash faction. No wonder they kept crying about human racials before.

Horde is defined as overwhelming numbers. They are living up to that definition.

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And yet anathor day I earned 0 tokens for the mount, Horde is so outnumbered they locust swarm devour any supply cache and nearly every rare except the bad ones the moment they spawn. Also why our 3 followers so thrash (or broken) but are horde followers hitting me for insane amounts? Yeah fair…