Yes thats exactly how the list was made, meta taken into consideration, how did that miss you?
mage : ally (cuz of rogue/priest being ally favored mostly, still gnome mage = op and just as good situational wise as any horde race) - this is a fact based on reality that dwarf priest is simply alot more useful than undead priest when played vs majority of meta comps, same with rogue - there are more meta comps with stealth classes then there are comps with fear and no stealth class. And mages play with those 2 classes 99% of the time.
Thats whats called a fact, i can expand on it further into every single matchup maybe thats what you need to understand why its a fact, i thought it was common sense, any person that has any relevant arena knowledge already knew this if i write
best priest race is dwarf, every1 knows why and therefore its a fact. Any person who doesnt understand why especially this one , i think never played tbc arena and has no place to be in this thread. Only class that i didnât take meta into consideration is Druid, war stomp easily beats shadowmeld so hard that you can say it makes up for not having a gnome war in rdru/war or human rogue in rdru/rogue comps.
Given the fact that shamans and palas are garbage = ally racials beat horde racials , otherwise it would be pretty much a tie . - Fact and its all about meta.
Alot of facts and meta stuff yet somehow you managed to miss all of it.
I donât make things one dimensional, i simply account for every single scenario and take average out of it and that list is the result of that average. Your lack of arena knowledge or simply you didnt even bother to read the post judging by your reply made you think its one dimensional.
Top players mostly donât pick their character based on what is popular but on what is good. Otherwise there would be a lot more blood elves in arena than there are.
One clearly example are you, human warlock is stronger than gnome but you donât care about the racial you play the funniest thing.
Yeah, any rogue that gets caught by non stealthed perception is literally brainded, both warlock races on ally suck compare to horde
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Iâm playing gnome because it was bis in Classic (and still is in PvE) and I couldnât be bothered with rerolling. Also the difference between gnome and human is incredibly small for warlocks as both racials are kind of mediocre. Also Iâm not exactly a top player 
The best warlocks at endless on pvp was humans I remember some names of legendary warlocks that overdestroy the arenas⌠for a warlock perception>scape artist, for a warrior scape artist>perception it depends on the class you chose .
I wouldnât reroll if i was gnome for pvp , its a perfectly good race for warlock, removing slows and roots vs rogue/war after they use step/intercept with a coil or removing mage nova, its a really powerful racial easly on par with human/undead/orc warlock in this current meta.
Gnomes are awesome
The current top rated warlock on endlessâ arena realm is an orc and the top Alliance one is a gnome. Sure perception is good but not exactly incredible on a non stealth class and escape artist isnât horrible either.
Yeah it was Wrath. I used to play nelf warrior, it was insane, canât imagine swapping to human for an extra trinket slot. Not only was it convenient as the TBC one, but also reset aggro in PvE, made you untargetable like feign death sort of (even if you had dots on you you know), if you shadowmelded in a frost nova, not only could you avoid shatter combo but maybe also get a charge off mid-combat. Stuff like that, canât be replaced with an extra trinket slot, considering that trinkets in wrath basically are just stat sticks.
Oh yea Iâm not saying Escape Artist is bad at all. Calling it on par with undead or orc is a bit of a streach though in my opinion. If it was actually reliable against rogues and druids than maybe I would agree.
Yeeewah, versus rogue its basically depoison with 30% chance to fail with 105s cd, against mage and war it can resist and it aint so horrible but we counter mage anyway, so it has just some very limited value against war, you cant EVER compare that to wotf or hardiness
Well you are being abit of a hypocrite there taking into consideration that it can resist vs rogues and not taking into consideration that for example orc racial can not proc as well like ever, if you are comparing luck vs luck you should point out both sides, i personally like the racial that i have control over so i might be abit biased, just cuz of that i still dont think gnome racial is that much worse then undead or orc ones, obviously undead one is pretty much useless vs certain comps, its also wrong to say warlocks counter mages , in 2s yea, what about 3v3 vs RMP, it aint just for stopping shatter on yourself u can get stuck in a bad spot where u cant help teamm8s because of nova as well.
In my opinion warlock is the only class that is somewhat versatile when it comes to racials, there aint clear as day winner here.
It would be best to disable the racials in BG and arena. No need for open world PvP as the PvP server will soon become a one-faction server.
Haha, i am not sure if Blizz wouldnât nerf the Alliance racials when the Horde cries and demands this 
Itâs hard to believe what kind of state this game has reached.
Honestly, i dont care about 3s, tbc is about 2s.
Difference between irc and gnome racials is that 1 removes a slow which isnt as important for warlock and 1 stops stun, which is big, but wotf is way better than both of those, its completly broken against fear classes.
Ahh ye the âonly top should be taken it considerationâ argument. Few weeks ago there was a post with hundreds of replies on how this mentality was followed by blizz in terms of balancing and designing in retail, smt that brought to game to the current state, but ok lets not get into that. Lets talk about top 100 i guess?
Currently in EU top 100:
2s: 42 alliance - 58 horde teams
3s: 26 alliance - 74 horde teams
5s: 29 alliance - 71 horde teams
(Inb4 5head post like âoNlY 2s MaTtEr AnYwAyâ)
on my druid i would trade my shadowmekd vs your warstomp and pay you $1k on top
Obviously if you had any braincells you would balance game around the best players, this is true for any competitive game in exsistance and it makes perfect sense. I donât care what and how many posts were about anything this is reality based on pure logic and nothing else.
Also this is TBC Classic , game wasnât balanced around anything back then its by pure RNG that its in whatever balance state it is atm, and this balance state is only accuretly represented by top players and not entire playerbase.
In starcraft u balance the game around the guy who can micro 20 units at once and not around the guy who cant micro a single unit. If you are not skill capped you are irrelevant when it comes to balance (this fact might hurt your feelings , but your feelings are unfortunetly irrelevant) . And no wow is no different, same with dota, csgo or any other competitive PvP game.
None is arguing there arent more horde than alliance players , argument here is that ally racials beat horde racials and nothing more than that. And if every warlock was bloodelf, every warrior/rogue a troll, every priest troll or any x race, top 100 would look 99% same it looks now, because racials really donât matter that much.
Also not sure if you played retail at all, but game wasnât designed twords a skill cap at all in fact game got pruned (after MoP/WoD) expansion after expansion and made as simple as you can get with every class almost being same, on top of that all the class designers in retail wow are clueless and bad and dont even play the game, thats what brought retail wow to its current state. So i donât know what the hell are you talking about and what this post is, my guess is a bunch of clueless noobs again arguing over delusions.
Bit of a problem here is that wow is not a competitive pvp game really seeing as there is no balance if you really think about it (atleast not in tbc seeing as most classes lack a self heal and other other things that would make it somewhat balanced).
But that how you balance a pvp game though you make everythign basicly equal so that only skill makes a differnece not class choice, for example you used starcraft 2 and every race had a possiblity to counter every other race, sure for example terran might get the marine that actually can target air from the begining but the marine is also really bad compared to the zelot in a 1v1 fight to balance that out. Seeing as there are classes that cant deal with certant other classes with both players being of equal skill in a 1v1 situation wow is not ment to be a pvp game in reality.
I am not saying tbc is balanced or that wow is balanced im just countering his bad point of view that top players arent the only ones that matter when it comes to balance, backing it up with logic that every game dev is balancing game around top players.
What im saying is that only top players represent current state of balance (or imbalance if u like it more) and thats it.
WoW is a competitive game, a bad one - smth being competitive is decided by amount of dedicated and time players are willing to put into the game to win against other players, game doesnt need tournaments, doesnt need to be called esport, doesnt even need to be balanced , Diablo 2 after 15 years still has a PvP scene and it is considered competative , while its outshined by any other PvP game like Dota2, League etc (same for wow) it doesnt change the fact that if theres a cult following that wants to be competitive then game is considered competitive.
And of course its competitive when there is a ladder with ELO, anything with elo or ladder is competitive. Even legion tower defense in wc3.
I canât imagine anyone other than players who aim for top100 in m+/pvp/raids to care about racials. Since BFA release I didnât use a single racial ability other than lightforged dranei.