It’s impossible to play Alterac Valley and actually win as an alliance. Horde have major advantage on map and also NPC’s. I mean, what the hell is with the flying elites that Alliance cant hit, but one shot us? and the stone elemental boss?
I haven’t seen Alliance win a SINGLE game since Feb 2020… this is wrong - no matter how you dress this up. This is why AV queues died as the game progressed more into TBC and WOtLK.
Please fix this as gaining rep is atrociously slow and completely boring.
You mean the ones that Alliance can also call in via the turn-ins of items back in your base?
3 druids who mount up on panthers or a dwarf… Yes, that’s exactly like several elite flying 1 shotters - right enough!
Aerie Gryphon = War rider
Neither of these oneshot unless you are utter garbage. (ps move out of fire)
Most amusing that you would compare them to druids, considering gryphons and war riders have the exact same summon requirements;
Return commanders from the enemy side of the map to your base (alive) -> do turnins.
Those are not the NPC’s I’m talking about.
This is the Alliance version.
We Horde summon ours because we know it’s a big help for us to push your clump of players back.
You don’t even know the basics of the battleground man, read up on a bit and you’ll see you got the same options for summoning flying mobs as we do.
you can’t really blame him for not knowing what that is. people who learned AV from playing classic alliance probably think the map ends after SHGY.
Lol, but it doesn’t. I lost enough games in 6-7 mins vs alliance premades in there in the early days to know that many ally players have seen the entire map.
dunno in the last AV I was there were a bunch of people who didn’t even know you had to kill drek’thar to win.
No wonder the Alliance can’t win AV, most of you don’t even know how the BG works beyond “run south.”
This is your brain on fast queues.
In short horde smart and skilled alliance dumb babies.
IM almost exalted with my alliance now…
UR not Losing due the map… Ur Losing due the insane amount of People just afk… 10rogues…sweet LT u think? 6of them standing still in stealth at the SH house.
(just 1 random example.
The amount of bots and leechers make the majority People not realy motivated, so they stop trying aswel.
The single biggest reason alliance lose is simply because its always 20 alliance vs 40 horde… Actualy trying.
Thanks for all the replies, especially from the hordies - but my point is that Alliance is not able to return all of its elites to launch the gryphons so it is actually war rider vs the mini elites…
What happens(Im excluding the fact that there AFKers because this happens on both sides Im sure) is horde dominate by taking SHGY and SFGY, then Alliance are cut off for the entire game. There needs ot be something done about either the strength of the NPCs or the map routes.
Im also saying this for the horde because pretty soon you’ll find there are no AV queues because Alli will realise they make more HKs in a premade WSG or AB and can actually win where is more on a level playing field.
we don’t really care. we’ve learned to live with the fact that alliance are quitters and that we’ll play AV once ina blue moon.
no, you’re excluding that fact because you don’t want to admit that alliance has more botters. it’s horde that are the bad guys…
that’s your own damn fault. if you bothered to even try horde wouldn’t take shgy. also, horde that knows what they’re doing doesn’t take sfgy before shgy.
the playingfield is not level and that’s the point of AV. horde has weakpoints and alliance has weakpoints. learn to adapt and overcome.
It’s not “impossible” to win but it is very hard. However it is quite satisfying to win since the map is so Horde favoured.
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