yeah but then we miss out on the xp boost
I ask again, if people ANYWAY playing only PVE on PVP realms and BG only! AND every time on every server make 1 fractions 99% and trancfer to realms with 99% you sure this players NEED PVP? Becouse like half of poplulation on Thekal itās people who alredy have other charater lvl 70 on other server
Considering how filled Thekal is, and how itās actually balanced, I think itās safe to say itās the opposite of what youāre talking about xD People want a balanced PvP realm to play on because itās fun.
Thats definitely not the case on Thekal. People including myself are actually doing world PVP. It makes the levelling process more challenging and fun. But saying this currently I canāt get into Thekal because of queues and I am unable to get into Firemaw which is where the rest of my characters are. There are no free transfers from Firemaw from what I can see (someone correct me if I am wrong and I will happily transfer) so I literally cannot play the game unless I wait in 4 hour queues.
I just want to say that people stupid, low skill at PVP and dont know what they want and play on PVP server like this is PVE and dodge every PVP interaction, literally flock of sheep
JUST GO PLAY ON PVE SERVER, you dont play PVP you dont like world PVP 80% of people pray to not see any enemy player, just go play PVE server, and stop ruin PVP server when 90% of peope dont even like PVP
You are generalising all people here when it seems like its just your opinion. And it is fine to have your own opinion but you are trying to speak for everyone on PVP servers here which is a bit strange. How do you know 80% of people pray they dont get attacked?
No this is not my opinion, thats objective true
You literally can see this on actuall classic realms
If people like PVP so much, why i didn see ANY themes about āfix PVP balanse i want PVPā but we have 100 themes about ques
I mean, gotta agree on that, yes there are a lot of people who avoid PvP for whatever reason. But there are still so many who do engage in it.
Whether itās because not in the mood, wanting to reach the leveling quests faster instead of endlessly chasing people on the roads, not feeling confident etc, but still the feeling of tension is always around and that keeps people on their toes. Itās just not there in PvE realms.
Well queues is the first priorityā¦why would people complain about the balance when they cant even get into the game?
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The main point of contention is that for EXCLUSIVELY the fresh start servers - there is no choice in terms of just moving to another server. If blizzard didnāt make fresh start servers then maybe it wouldnāt matter - but the fact is they did make fresh start servers and so the impression is that itās one product that they want people partaking in.
And in all of the EU, there is just one single PvP and PvE fresh server. So you literally donāt have a choice in the matter if you want a fresh start. So I donāt think itās just fair to tell people to go to another realm - as if you joined any of the fresh starts, then you joined with the intention of soaking up exactly that experience that Blizzard have marketed.
I think they just add one more PvP and PvE server, you still have 2.5k queues on all servers (if you were to average it out more or less) - loads of room for population to drop, queues are still ālongā conventionally, but they are much more acceptable, and more people get to play the game.
The concensus in this thread at least seems to agree mostly, but it surprises me how many people are supporting blizzard in this. Queues, fine. But these queues? This isnāt acceptable and we shouldnāt accept this.
because thereās more people queueing than playing thatās why.
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Even if im wrong about 90%, not even 80% or 70% even if 30-40% people who playing on PVP server like PVE GO TO ACTUALL PVE FRESH, queues will DISAPPEAR
10k queue
15k+ server
I dont know what are you talking about
That would be a great idea if they could transfer off Thekal. I would happily transfer to a PVE (even thought I dont like it) just so I could play the game with the characters that I have.
True that, for a fresh PvP realm start thereās just not even a choice. Also on the topic of transfers, many have friends whether old or new there by now. Moving out is just not easy.
so many people have cried for balanced PvP servers for a long time now.
and based on prior metrics, the only way blizzard can ensure that is to deliver only 1 PvP server. and that is why they have not allready opened another Fresh PvP
are there possible solutions to that problem? yes. but many of those solutions would have the playerbase up in flames about it.
are there possible solutions to the other current problems? yes. but again many of them would bring the players to a riot.
so choose your āpoisonā - Plague or Cholera
Idk what youāre on about, itās easy - no more creation of new Characters (for ppl who have no Characters yet) of one Faction if the Balance is >= 10%
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How about they give free transfers out out of Thekal? So people who are just sick of queuing can just move elsewhere.
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Totally agree with this
I agree. Itās the option of not being able to do anything at all that makes this situation even more frustrating 
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