Anyone that is not satisfied with the current state of the game - unsubscribe

Our constant complains, feedback and requests for changes are ignored. It doesn’t matter how many pages we will type on the forums and how much effort we would put into it. Ion Hazzikostas will just say in an interview that “everyone loves conduit power” and if you lose as 190 ilvl alt to 226 ilvl boosted animal that is kicking the air and pressing all offensive and defensive cds right away as arena gate is open - is just L2P issue.

Maybe if more of us would quit and there will be barely any subs someone above him will make any change in WoW team. If we can’t get them to change anything with feedback maybe shock therapy would work.

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I don’t know who “US” is in that sentence, but if you’re not having fun it’s probably a good idea you take a break. It’s a GAME after all.

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Us? Everyone who gives feedback on forums. I wrote A4 pages getting 20-50 likes at least and huge support from other players.

Us? PvP players - check PvP players feedback about gearing and boosting.

Us? M+ players - having 5-7 specs having fun and the rest being benched.

Us? Players that said that covenants wouldn’t work as they expected and they don’t. There are clear winners for every class.

Us? Players who don’t want borrowed power for 3rd expansion in a row giving feedback it sucks.

Btw - 50% of people who wanted to play the game already left. I know you will drop argument of people leaving like every expansion. So there is a reason they leave every expansion. They sub hoping for different experience and they receive this crap.

And yes - this post was addressed to these who are not satisfied with many things and since you are then just keep playing. I’m not saying this to satisfied players but to these who aren’t and keep trying feedback on forums hoping for changes. It doesn’t work. If they don’t like it they should quit and give feedback with wallet.

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Ok. US is you then.

I understand you’re passionate, but if you really are not having fun my friendliest advice would be to take a break.

Some people might agree with your motives, some won’t, but who cares, this is a game so play only if you have fun I say

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That’s literally what I typed in my post. If someone is not satisfied with the game and the direction 9.1 is going to he should quit - like I’m actually planing to. There is literally no disagreement between us.

Also pretending that “us” is only me is a bit silly since SL has less players now than in 8.3 with corruptions clown fiesta.

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Bro – They already lost like, what, 9 million subs since WOTLK?

How much more do you feel need to quit before they start to get it xD?

I’m rather talking about recent times. SL got best sales this year behind Cyberpunk and record sale for a WoW expansion in such short time. Considering there is ongoing pandemy and a lot of things are closed - people sit at home they should have more players - not less.

Somehow they messed up the expansion so much that over 50% of players who bought it are not playing the game anymore. Since Classic has the same sub as retail I believe these are the stats for people who quit including Classic ones. You can clearly see on LFG activity what’s going on. 9.1 is not fixing these problems it’s just designed on pre-planned schedule.

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The US includes me too. So it is a valid US

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It’s already very clear that they do not care.

Activision-Blizzard is just keeping this game on life support. Doing the bare minimum to keep people “interested”. None of the past few expansions have truly been “amazing”, and they know it.

They implement JUST enough to keep most players playing so that they can rake in the monthly sub and perhaps some cash shop profits.

They don’t care if the game dies. if it does – they’ll just relocate the WoW dev team to work on “other projects” and buy another game dev studio that has a well-performing game, and then do the same to their game as they did to World of Warcraft.

Rinse and repeat.

Buy a company -> Monetize their games -> Lay off tons of staff and drain the profits until the game dies -> Relocate remaining developers to ‘other projects’ -> repeat.

Edit: Even WoW Classic/TBC/etc… works on the exact same business model. It costs them far less to recreate an old game than creating a good brand new game would, and after the remake has been finished (as is the case now with WoW:Classic) the servers will just be kept online. No new content will be added and they’ll just rake in the subscription money.

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People wont just up and go. Yes many have but WOW has a dedicated core playbase, though dwindling, that is loyal and love the game. Plus many have friends here and just do not want to give it up.

Obviously the game is still profitable or Activision would have pulled the plug by now. Plus they have other means to keep making money off WOW in the form of: the in game shop, rereleasing past expansions that are tied to a modern day WOW sub, books, gear, etc…

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So when are you going?.. or is this a sacrifice you are prepared for other players to make, on your behalf?

If you are going, can I have your gold?

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Already unsubbed (but still have 4 months left cause i was on the 6 month sub).

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And yet…not me, or the others who are enjoying the game so much they don’t come onto the cesspit that is the EU forums…

Everything you have written is purely subjective and your point of view.

So 'US is incorrect unless you can furnish us with testaments from other players you have spoken to.

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I guess it is a strategie… The infrastructe of wow is pretty expensive so maybe they want to slowly bleed out wow to shut down some servers. What I also believe is that the introduction of classic and retail team introduced some internal competition what could turn into toxic employee loss if one aspect does not get the appropriate credit. If I were a developer in the shadowlands team with ion as a lead. I would have constantly opened a job platform to apply for something better.

You can also assume that some of the devs already quit during corona because home office is not that great after a year. Evidence can be found in the current instability issues on ptr (9.1/classic). My impression is… the genius developer are gone at blizzard and now they try to bandage their spaghetti code

It s not just him…US is many many players

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I’m sure Activision-Blizzard board of directors will commit haiku hearing this
Show them my boy, unsub!
aaannd pass the gold to me and vulpie
She is a good vulpera

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You are contradicting yourself here. How do you know that people who are enjoying the game don’t come to the forums as you yourself are doing? How to you know that the largely negative reaction on the forums to the continued direction SL is taking does not reflect the general view of the playerbase?

I cannot or will not speak for everyone but my realm has been doa/intensive care for months now after a promising start to this xpac. Even the few remaining dedicated guilds are on a hiatus because of lack of interest or have disbanded. The AH is super dead, always a key indicator.

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Do you know how sub works btw? There is expiration time isn’t it?

I see at least 2 people thinking like me. Also I know that current education system is getting worse but basically this post wasn’t targeted to you but to these who aren’t satisfied. If you are satisfied don’t bother with my post and go back to anima and soul ash farming.

I know it sucks not to be included but this message wasn’t directed to you.

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50 likes? Oh lord, that’s insane! I’m sure it trumps Blizzard’s big data about precise player behavior and analytics of all player behavior, including what exactly do, how they do it how often and at what point in the game they unsubbed. I’m sure your 50 likes are totally much, much more valuable than this.

You should treat these forums as a place of having a discussion for its own sake. It takes an extreme ego to think that just because your opinion exists, reality must change itself to adapt to it. I make suggestions all of the time. The idea behind them is just… to type stuff out, to think of things, to have people then tear them down.

Get over yourself, mate. Just because you pay a subscription fee doesn’t mean you get to affect the game’s design. If you’re so great at MMO design, you can easily find a job in game design. Everyone is constantly looking for new game designers and to be fair, you really don’t need an education to get that type of a job. Just demonstrable skill.

I’m sure Amazon will immediately hire you to work on New World when they hear of your 50 likes on the WoW forums.

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Basically in every interview devs say that post feedback on forums and try to get 20+ likes if you want changes then I don’t know what is your problem.

It takes and extreme ego not to see half of the game population is gone in 6 months of the release pretending expansion is fine when even during ongoing pandemy people decide not to play it.

I’m not great at MMO design but I’m customer and if something clearly sucks I’ll leave feedback. If I see 3/4 of the dedicated forum doing saying similar things, devs say on every occasion that “we need to be more vocal” and they say they want to hear more about solo queue then how more vocal we can be if solo queue requests are everywhere.

Anyway if you like SL - this post was not intended to you then why are you even replying. It addressed to people who are not happy with the game.

Imagine how big of ego you need to have to think every forum post is addressed to you.

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