I ask you once again to allow me to “appear offline” on to both Battlenet friends and Guild. Sometimes a guy just wants to play alone or do content without getting bothered by the people you are in guild with.
I get the fact that you commit by joining a guild, but as a helpful person always getting taken advantage of - sometimes I just need a break from helping or people while still being able to play game.
I have a hard time saying no to helping, and when I do, I feel guilty afterwards.
and the achievement spam in guild… please give me an option to take them off. I want to be as invisible as possible… they don’t need to know I went to the barber and got a haircut or I have scrapped a piece of cloth, or killed Illidan in BT…
as far as i know, you will appear offline in guild as long as people dont have you on your battlenet list. if you re friends with them they see you regardless.
edit: meh, someone once had a similar question about offline mode and i ran a test with different scenarios, when/where you can see someone on or offline but for some reason i cant find the thread anymore.
Not crying, I’m just a polite fellow.
I do say no, probably around 25-30 times a day.
Tbh. I did not feel this was an issue back when I was playing dps (for a tier).
But playing all tanks you are a much coveted role!
Unless people have a team, they usually need a tank for various content - and usually its for raiding or weekly keys, with them having waiting in queue for a tank to show up for a long time.
I don’t mind helping, but debating people is such a hassle, instead of just having an off/online feature. Being polite towards your fellow guildies is still a value (I hope) most people consider a most in a guild.
Replies as “no busy” with no follow-up seems quite rude to me.
It would be a lot easier for me to be able to appear on/offline, when online I’m “ready for service” so to say
i dont know, i found it way more rude if someone was hiding from me than just simply replying with “no sorry i dont feel like it right now”.
saying no does not equal being rude. you do not have to justify why you do not want to do certain task. you are not their slave and entitled to do whatever you want.
Saying no sorry i dont feel like it right now", only goes a certain ammount of times.
Then questions like, these arrise :
“dont you like playing with me?”
“do you think I’m a bad player?”
And/or people get annoyed, angry or hurt for some reason, and start avoiding you - when all you wanted to do was play alone for a few days a week. Thinking about it, I guess its a bit like intro/extro-vert situation.
May I ask why are you are against that people can be hidden while online in guilds?
Do you think my only solution would be to have un-guilded alts?
Tbh I don’t personally care because I’m somebody who is able to say no to people without being guilted into doing it anyway, and people still ask me to do content with them
Normal people understand when someone doesn’t feel like doing something at a certain point in time
If you’re being manipulated, you should recognise that and respond adequately
Your request is not something that is going to be implemented by Blizzard anytime soon, you’re not the first person asking for this
That’s why I suggested you act like a grown up and solve your own issue
Sometimes it is nice to just hide and do your own thing. Yes, it’s an MMORPG but everyone has days where they just aren’t up to interacting with others - regardless how sympathetic or not fellow players may be.
Perhaps there would be a time-limit on appearing offline…so that it hides you for 12 hours but after that, when you’ve logged off, it returns to the default online. That would help reduce the number of people who forget to change their status and are just permanently hidden without meaning to be.
It’s a difficult balance to achieve, especially as there are more and more comments referring to WoW as becoming more of a single-player game than its MMORPG origins.
Not sure how it works but you could leave the guild for the time you want to play unbothered by them. Don’t know how bnet appear offline works however.
but isnt that kind of on them if they start interpreting way too much into a “sorry i dont feel like it right now”? even if you play tank you have the right to say no and do whatever you want. doesnt mean you like them any more or less.
if someone gets all angsty because someone doesnt feel like doing activity x or y once in a while then that sounds very much like a them-issue they need to sort out and not you.
not feeling like doing something at a certain time does not mean you reject them as friends or that they are bad players. in my guild when i ask someone if they want to run m+ or do whatever and they say no then thats perfectly valid and fine because there will be other times when they say yes.
of course if you say “no i dont feel like it right now” every day for a month straight then yeah, it doesnt really work, but in my opinion there is a difference between “i dont want to be shown online right now because i dont feel like doing anything and dont want to explain it 50 times” and “i dont want to be online because i dont want to say no to people because they then feel rejected and get depression or something”. one is healthy, the other one is not.
i never said that?
i guess so unless you dont have them on your friendlist. or you could just…say no.
A hide offline mode would be good. Really, there are days you just want to log in and play without people knowing that you’re about. Yes, you can like your guild, but just like how fond you’re of your IRL family, you don’t always want to talk to them etc.
Mind you that wouldn’t stop your achievement progress being broadcast to the guild, so that would need a ‘no broadcast’ option.
so they’re trying to guilt you into helping them even when you don’t want to, and you cave. i do understand sometimes just wanting to shut everyone out and just be in my own little bubble, i get that too. but this particular thing seems like more of an issue with your relationship with people in your guild rather than being able to show as offline.
Asking for this change isn’t “not being grown up”. Soemtimes you want to be off the radar. I don’t have a problem saying “no” but I recognise if I keep doing it I will be excluded eventually.
So this isn’t about “growing up”. If you think it is you should widen your horizon. aka grow up.
If you feel the need to keep doing it all the time, you yourself imply with your behaviour that you prefer exclusion.
If you feel social pressure to fulfill other people’s whims in fear they will stop playing the game with you, you have unhealthy relations with your guild “friends”.
Contrary to what you say, this is all quite about growing up.
