regardless of which covenant you pick you are sitll the “champion” for every covenant in the shadowlands, they still expect you to come and save them with the callings each day, and you are still considered to be a hero to all of them, but if you try and get to close to them or walk into their house all of a sudden you are essentially hated by them all of a sudden for no good reason,
from a story standpoint it makes absolutely no sense that you would only have the ability to harness one of these abilities, so why cant they just let us choose which one we want to fit a situation we are in, its the only logical situation considering they have failed miserably with trying to give some kind of story based reason for us to only have 1.
the fact of the matter is they are class abilities, that means they should be tied to the classes and not just arbitrarily locked behind another system for no good reason. even though this game is an RPG it doesnt make sense within their own story.
and why would they just make the game less enjoyable for a large section of their playerbase when they dont have any genuine reason to
but the classes are a classic RPG element that makes perfect sense with in the context of the game, its been something that has existed as long as the game has,
now they are adding a system that basically just gives you fancy talents that have a colour based on a covenant and are telling us its an important decision even though they have done absolutely nothing to actually make it an important decision other than making some of them incredibly strong meaning you dont really get a choice.
its not like you can just outright say one class is always better than every other calss in every other situation, but with warlock necrolord it is better for every spec in basically ever situations, so its a completely different thing,
its nothing like being bale to just randomly change class, because losing/learning 1 ability is not the same as swapping an entire class for another one,
all we are asking is for the class abilities to be decoupled and added to the talent row where they belong. because they are designed exactly the same as talents and are Arbitrarily being locked behind a covenant choice for no good reason
its makes aboslutely no sense for them to keep it.
thats if you want to change back, but i think thats also a completely different point all together, the whole #pulltheripcord thing is about the abilities specifically,
no one actually wants to swap between the full covenants all the time, i just want to pick a covenant and be able to use the different abilities when i want to, even if its just a matter of using them for some fun in torghast
The point is that there is no meaningful choice with the way that Blizz plans changing covenants back, just 8 wq’s spread over 2 days… instead of 2 weeks something similar like it was originally hinted.
Not that there ever was, but now it should be evident to everyone that it’s just an arbitrary time-gated system.
P.S. If conduits stay locked for 1 week… this will be completely nonsensical. lol
its not just that, but there is no real story reason for you to only pick the one.
you are still the champion and hero to all of the covenants after the leveling storyline, and they are still expecting you to do everything for them through the world quests and callings and such, and then just randomly start hating you and refusing access to the covenant sanctums because you sided with someone else, it makes no sense at all, as pointed out by both preach and bellular in recent videos.
this coming from preach who has outright stated on multiple occasions he isnt one for the story and lore, and even he can understand its just making no sense at all.
you are not actually reading anything that im typing then, because im saying plenty other than that, and also giving all of the reasons why it shouldnt be locked.
but like most people that are crazy enough to think this is actually a good system you are just ignoring anything that doesnt agree with you.
because its aparently too difficult to come up with your own ideas on stuff so you just end up having to parrot whatever inane idiocy that blizz has put forward. even though within the the context of the exapansion and the game as it has been put forward it makes no sense.
i really do not, i have actually taken the time to reply to specific things and given reasons for all of the arguments i am making, compared to people on the opposite side to me, who quote a tiny part of anything that is said out of context sometimes and then try to reframe what is being said,
basically anyone who has a decent understanding of how this game works realised as soon as this system was announced that it was going to cause a problem, even friends of mine that are straight up casuals found it difficult to get hyped about it because the just knew it would cause a problem,
feeling like its not worth playing alt specs because you have a crappy covenant for that spec, which is made even worse with soulbinds but thats another topic completely.
the fact that even if you just want to enjoy some new abilities and take them into torghast for some fun you are being told you are not allowed to,
why is it that some people should be allowed to have fun and play the game the way they want to and a large portion of the community is just being told they are not.
considering that making them swappable has next to no affect on those who are okay with sticking with one, as that is still an option. if you want to run necrolord with the necrolord ability that is still more than possible.
unlike my situation where i would really like to go venthyr as its the only cosmetics i really like for my lock and the story seems a lot more like what i would enjoy, and yet im not allowed to because they have made necrolord too powerful, so i have to take that.
i think there is a big miss understanding on whats being asked for here, i dont want to be in the necrolord covenant and be using their mogs one day and then be kyrian the next with their mogs, im happy just sticking with venthyr, but changing the abilities that are being designed to be exactly the same as talents just locked behind the aesthetic choice makes zero sense what so ever.
The reality is that ill play whichever covenant is more fun/interesting. If others don’t like it…they can go screw themselves, i don’t let people dictate how i play the game i paid for, not friends, not guildies and sure as hell not some random puggers. In my eyes, being forced to do something for anything, be it dungeons, raids or other events is a massive issue with the playerbase, one which was very prominent in classic, but far less so now, plus it’s very disrespectful for one’s individual wishes.
The game would have to be utterly broken and unbalanced to convince me otherwise.
Do you want to be cutting edge - META
Do you want to be doing 15+ all the time - META
Do you want to be Glad - META
Do you hate META and META mentality, but still want those - play with guild mates and people that want to work together. If I open a pub group regardless, of the content I want the best chance of succeeding, unless I have specified otherwise (which I have done on more than one occasions when I play for chill/training)
But how can someone measure skill ? You can measure achievements and gear, but skill of someone you never met before ? Like myself I have gear and achievements, but I am probably worst player in this thread.
There is some logic, or rather hope, that if most classes are bound with their covenants to either raiding, pvp or mythic+, then the restrictions to certain “meta class/spec/covenant” is too much too ask for. While in the beginning of the expansion performance-oriented players have to settle apart from the rest, on the long run they will play on a higher difficulty. Others who can catch up the difficulty due to experience in the other branches won’t fit the “meta” anymore. Therefore the mayority won’t be meta on moderate difficulties. This might be an heroic attempt to break the “meta”-mindset of the casual to semi progress player base.
yes. It will be a big problem. Worse than corruptions. worse than azerite. Worse than anything we’ve seen in this game.
At this point, I don’t even understand who believes giving us a talent tree you get to choose only once and not being able to change it ever, and a soulbind system you get to change once a week, a good idea.
And even if they do believe, I just wonder how it’s possible to believe that.
Blizzard’s obsession with “borrowed power” will be the end of this game. It has scared away many players - including myself - and I think Shadowlands will be the final nail in the coffin.
Thank god for Project Classic. Roll on TBC and WotLK,
