Are They Out of Touch with The Community?

[Hansmage-silvermoon (Hansmage)]

@Vilesså-argent-dawn

Now they announced the expansion a bit later, well making the BFA longest expansion ever.

What xD

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[Kaløyan-sylvanas]

Community?
You mean… Blizz should listen to some kids who plays their game?
Kids are always unhappy. A big company like Acti-Blizz shouldnt care about the whine from some kids ingame.

They just make their game and if the kids dont like it, they shouldnt ask their moms for money to buy it.

[Thodric-anachronos]

I think if SL was definitely going to be ready on time we would have had the pre-patch announcement by now. My guess is that on Monday there will be a meeting at Blizz to work out how ready SL is looking and we’ll either get pre-patch date of the 6th October or an announcement of a delay.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

@Gerikee-ragnaros

@Bjornson-nordrassil

This is the only game we apparently need to stay up to date with even if you are not playing it to not miss out thanks to asinine artificial scarcity

That’s a pretty stupid thing to say. 99% of the popular games operate with time limited events, skins, etc…

It is the extent that is the problem. It is a different thing to have something like the 15th anniversary event and a different thing to designa good part of the main content to be a FOMO timesink to keep people playing in the content drought “or else” (and it was not that bad in BFA as the previous 3 expacs unless you wanted all the rank 4 essences).

This game was not that way, which brings us to the next point.

@Gerikee-ragnaros

@Bjornson-nordrassil

If they are working on an established and successful IP then they better stick to what made it good and keep making good without trying to turn it into a different game of their own.

You can’t really succeed with a 15 yr old game tho. If you never mix things up, most of the players got bored and quit fast. Also gaming culture changed a lot, so if you’re maintaining WoW you need to calculate with that too.

That does not excuse mediocrity.
WoW right now makes me think of the Bilbo butter Scene.

I feel thin... stretched. Like butter scraped over too much bread.

If they really want to make it so different they might as well get serious and create WoW2 instead of trying to bait the continued engagement of a previous gamer generation

[Alexima-kazzak (Alexima)]

Here’s how blizzard works in multiple steps

Step 1- They know better than community. They’ll do as they please.

Step 2- The system is flawed, exactly as community predicted.

Step 3- They spend the entirety of an expansion trying to fix the flaws they created. while they could have still listened to community suggestions instead of sticking to their own system for easier fix.

Step 4- End of an expansion, so they just promise a better future, better next expansion without repeating the same mistakes and promise of more communication and listening.

Step 5- They announce the new features. And they turn out to be the same issues and sometimes even bigger ones in comparison to the recently finished faulty expansion.

Step 6- Community Complains about all the very predictable issues and constantly ask blizzard to listen to them

Step 7- Back to step one.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

Time is a Flat Circle: “Everything we’ve ever done or will do, we’re gonna do over and over and over again.”

[Alexima-kazzak (Alexima)]

yea. the new and improved “Blizzard”.

I don’t know why they are so obsessed with being hard headed and stubborn against the wishes of the community. Not just wow either. All their games.

Take a look at dota 2 for example and how developers do stuff with that game.

1- They change a lot of stuff every patch.
2- Community comes out and accepts a lot of those changes. But finds some stupid changes and calls them out as STUPID.
3- the dev team checks those complaints. Goes through them and realize yea. It was stupid. Community’s right. We’ll give them what they want.
4- The stupid decisions are reverted. Everyone’s happy, until they get bored with the repetitive meta.
5- They go back to step one and change things once more.

Blizzard sees the success of dota 2, and instead of understanding the reason behind its success, they see the ESPORTS success of the game part and ask themselves “How can we earn the same amount of money instead, from our own ESPORTS”

And then they push ESPORTS instead of listening to the community part.

It’s just amazing. It feels like people who are in charge have no connection whatsoever to the community, the game or the current state of it.

[Crimsonic-kazzak]

Next reset

[Bagdawg-moonglade]

Are Blizzard out of touch with the players ?

This is the company that though announcing a mobile game to an audience of diehard PC gaming fans would be a good idea.

[Gwynevien-argent-dawn]

Yes, unfortunately. According to Bellular; Activision is putting it’s heavy paw on release date( funds cuts and all),forcing what’s left of temps in Blizz to work on something that is not exactly finished: link at the end of my comment; if you guys are interested. So basically for them to listen to players…we need to unsubscribe before new expansion. After all pre-patch is made to fill that dullest month of waiting,when normally people will cancel subs.
https://youtu.be/zYJnL0UWcio

[Nezarah-argent-dawn]

@Vilesså-argent-dawn

Why is there no date or any blizzard dev/blue addressing the pre-patch date, it’s “supposed” to be at least 4 weeks.

Because it’s crunch time at the WoW studio.

Activision Blizzard has set the release date and Shadowlands isn’t and wont be ready on time. It’s not up for debate, game will go live in whichever state it is.

Pre-patch is being postponed as close as possible to the actual release date in order to allow more time to work and polish the final build.

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Employees at Blizzard Entertainment are doing their very best to push and balance the expansion content, but you can clearly tell that production is completely overclocked at this point.

Time allocation was mismanaged internally as the first iterations of the many systems in Shadowlands needed far more development. You really should take more responsibility for those systems, especially since you had the feedback from us. That said…

To any employee that reads this, please take care of yourself first and know that a large portion of the community has matured enough to understand game production up to a unrealistic release date.

Still, It’s a darn shame it had to come to this, especially after BFA…

[Soulscar-steamwheedle-cartel]

This posts just make me laugh . They got dead-lines !? It’s a corporation , they got bosses on top of bosses and marketing .

Don’t tell me you actually believe that some employ reads the forums and releases the expansions and patches according to the players !?!?!

I’m putting my hand in the fire right now , not even Ion decides when the bloody expansion is out or anything for that matter .

[Anyonemon-skullflame]

@Gwynevien-argent-dawn

According to Bellular

oh then it MUST be true

[Mukuro-pozzo-delleternità (Mukuro)]

@Anyonemon-skullflame

oh then it MUST be true

Well, Blizzard itself gave him credibility through his interview with Ion.

[Thatsitthen-darkspear]

Well we have all had the background download now so to say nothing is happening is no quite true

[Lonasne-chamber-of-aspects]

@Nezarah-argent-dawn

Activision Blizzard has set the release date and Shadowlands isn’t and wont be ready on time. It’s not up for debate, game will go live in whichever state it is.

Pre-patch is being postponed as close as possible to the actual release date in order to allow more time to work and polish the final build.

I have been thinking exactly the same for a few days now. SL will launch on the 27th no matter what state it is in.

[Nezarah-argent-dawn]

@Lonasne-chamber-of-aspects

SL will launch on the 27th no matter what state it is in.

Just like Anthem and Fallout 76 had to.

Oh dear… oh dear…

[Ishida-hellfire]

Blame streamers like asmongold who always gets the beta invite because he is a "streamer’ But spend most of his time farming mounts or doing things like flexing with his mounts in retail Instead of reporting bugs

[Dejarous-draenor (Dejarous)]

@Ishida-hellfire

Blame streamers like asmongold who always gets the beta invite because he is a "streamer’ But spend most of his time farming mounts or doing things like flexing with his mounts in retail Instead of reporting bugs

Yea, totally that gingers fault.

[Gwynevien-argent-dawn]

Well if you say it MUST be true…noone else said that, not Asmongold, Quartering and neither Bellular, but you 🤷. We all are floating in a doubt and there’s a lot of speculations, based on what ex-workers spilled. Since we don’t have official news…we take what we have from people,who also says : let’s see what happens. And Bellular was right many times. Since you don’t know that, only guess: you don’t watch that much of his channel.
But if you think there’s other problem than: money, making only stockholders happy, mass employees movement from Blizz to Morheims company, Activision clamping on any and all investments, hemorrhaging money on plans they abandoned (Titan); go ahead link your thoughts, don’t be shy.