are u suffering from FPS drops in BFA?

Hello everybody, im suffering from fps drops in the new dungeons of bfa, does anyone have the same problem like me? for example in shrine of the storm or the motherlode sometimes i get 35 frames or less, even when im lowering the settings more than the recommanded, im playing on 6 by the way

i have

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz

GeForce GTX 1060, and i play the game on SSD

i know my pc isnt that awsome but it should be more than enough for wow right?

cuz i can play better graphic games on ultra and still get +60 FPS

my GPU is up to date so im not missing anything
Probably your CPU, WoW relies more on that than your graphics card.

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20/08/2018 19:47Posted by Dopecool
Probably your CPU, WoW relies more on that than your graphics card.

Pretty sure it's the huge amount of mobs and someone mucking up the game-engine since Antorus. It just struggles with modern systems for some reason.

20/08/2018 19:44Posted by Zappihuntard
cuz i can play better graphic games on ultra and still get +60 FPS

Yup, definetly not your setup then. I play with similar specs as you and I found that the age old tip of lowering shadow quality still does wonders for fps in wow. Might want to try that.
20/08/2018 19:51Posted by Zappihuntard
he told me that my CPU is more than enough for wow

Your CPU is fine to run WoW smoothly, but just not on the highest settings.

Try lowering the CPU-based settings, such as View Distance and Environment Details, and see if that makes a difference.

As others mentioned, WoW is a CPU-game, meaning that it demands a good CPU with all the NPC's and processes going on when playing. Even people with good CPUs will get low FPS in Raids.
20/08/2018 19:53Posted by Thedice
20/08/2018 19:47Posted by Dopecool
Probably your CPU, WoW relies more on that than your graphics card.

Pretty sure it's the huge amount of mobs and someone mucking up the game-engine since Antorus. It just struggles with modern systems for some reason.

20/08/2018 19:44Posted by Zappihuntard
cuz i can play better graphic games on ultra and still get +60 FPS

Yup, definetly not your setup then. I play with similar specs as you and I found that the age old tip of lowering shadow quality still does wonders for fps in wow. Might want to try that.


i play on Good shadow quality and Low SSAO

i tried to play with fair shadow quality or low, nothing much changed tbh

i only got 3-5 more fps
I had my i5-2500k at 4.2ghz and Legion couldn't even run smooth on it. Hell, even my ryzen 2600 has problems running it decently. WoW uses about 2 cores max and then it starts dropping FPS for no obvious reason (and it's not my GPU).
If you're running the game in Direct X 12 mode, try switching back to Direct X 11 and see if that helps.

There are some people who are experiencing performance drops under DX12. Their DX12 implementation is still new and may need tweaks. I too was experiencing FPS drops, even though I have an Nvidia 1080 Ti with a Ryzen 7 2700X. Switching back to DX11 made the FPS more consistent.
20/08/2018 19:47Posted by Dopecool
Probably your CPU, WoW relies more on that than your graphics card.

Incorrect, wow uses bearly 16% of a i7 assuming a dedicated gpu. Think of WoW as a very fancy 3d data entry form for inputting into a database. Blizzard (rightly so) run an authoritative server scheme, never trust the client, it could be compromised. The upshot of this is that the server does all the heavy lifting, combat resolution item transactions and so on (CPU tasks). All the client is there to do is to allow you to input data, and present server data in a pretty way.
Compare that to a single player game where your PC has to manage not only the graphics engine, but also maintain game state, enforce rules, manage AI, maintain transactional integrity, and a host of other functions that WoW does on the servers.

WoW is incredibly lightweight compared to other titles, and even a cursory glance at taskman will reveal your browser takes far more resources, especially if you have some crappy over scripted advertising platform like wowhead open.

Unless its a fault that has everyone on the forums screaming about, the likelihood is an issue with your PC. the fault I most have to deal with with friends and family PCs that have rendering issues is either a graphics card jammed with fluff causing it to overheat and throttle itself til it has cooled off, or malware.

A first step is to compare performance against other 3d games you have, if they all perform badly, check your GPU for fluff infestation. if it's only wow, check your addons(a lot are out of date at the moment and will be spamming the LUA engine the UI uses with errors), and check the drive wow is on for errors.
Ensure windows defender is on and fully enabled, there's no point in using 3rd party Av these days, M$ has ensured they have all the best (fastest) access to scan, and 3rd party AV just has to suck it up with whatever API calls that M$ allows them access to, they also have an R&D budget that probably exceeds the revenue of all 3rd party Av vendors put together.
Honestly just look at your cpu temperature or even gpu you should run WoW very smoothly with your configuration
if you're over 70° running wow you may need to clean up your computer
Also check you've got the most up to date drivers.
20/08/2018 19:59Posted by Danellos
If you're running the game in Direct X 12 mode, try switching back to Direct X 11 and see if that helps.

There are some people who are experiencing performance drops under DX12. Their DX12 implementation is still new and may need tweaks. I too was experiencing FPS drops, even though I have an Nvidia 1080 Ti with a Ryzen 7 2700X. Switching back to DX11 made the FPS more consistent.


The DX12 engine definitely has a (small) memory leak, there's not particular reason to use it at the moment, since wow isn't really demanding to use the multicore code, and doesn't use any of the new render techniques.
20/08/2018 21:05Posted by Redfield
Also check you've got the most up to date drivers.


my GPU is up to date tho
I dont know but after trying almost everything and the problem of the Huge drop FPS still happens im starting to believe that the problem is the game itself

as i said before i can run other games on ultra 60+ smoothly but not WOW

i just hope blizzard fixes this as soon as possible because its not fun for me to play a dungeon with 35 FPS even when im lowering the graphics
I play on very similar specs to you but mine is an i5-6 not an i5-2, and can run a 10.
Have you got anti aliasing turned off?
Do you use any addons that might be draining the ram?
What does the usage of your GPU look like?
Are you sure you are using your GPU and not the integrated graphics?
Anything running in the background that might impact the game?
What resolution do you play the game at?
20/08/2018 20:58Posted by Adelphine
Honestly just look at your cpu temperature or even gpu you should run WoW very smoothly with your configuration
if you're over 70° running wow you may need to clean up your computer


The temerature for both of my CPU and GPU are less than -60

GPU 48 C

CPU 50 C
20/08/2018 20:55Posted by Ameelia
20/08/2018 19:47Posted by Dopecool
Probably your CPU, WoW relies more on that than your graphics card.

Incorrect, wow uses bearly 16% of a i7 assuming a dedicated gpu.


Yes of course it does, because WoW basically only uses one single core, so yeah, it doesn't use much more than 1/8 of a 8 thread CPU. Your whole post is wrong on so many levels too.

There is a good reason no modern game runs on a single core, it's just not enough.

If you don't have a modern i5K/i7K with massive OC you will get low fps in this game, and that is the game's fault.
20/08/2018 23:57Posted by Moritz
I play on very similar specs to you but mine is an i5-6 not an i5-2, and can run a 10.
Have you got anti aliasing turned off?
Do you use any addons that might be draining the ram?
What does the usage of your GPU look like?
Are you sure you are using your GPU and not the integrated graphics?
Anything running in the background that might impact the game?
What resolution do you play the game at?

Anti Aliasing is disabled
I dont use a single addon these days Cuz of the FPS drops
i dont understand what u mean but if ur asking about the usage of my GPU its 30%
Yes im sure im using the right GPU, From Game menu>systems>Advanced>graphic card, im setting it to Nividia GeForce gtx 1060
I close everything in the background when i start to play wow
if ur asking about "Texture resolution" im playing on High
20/08/2018 23:59Posted by Erurqtrziu
20/08/2018 20:55Posted by Ameelia
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Incorrect, wow uses bearly 16% of a i7 assuming a dedicated gpu.


Yes of course it does, because WoW basically only uses one single core, so yeah, it doesn't use much more than 1/8 of a 8 thread CPU. Your whole post is wrong on so many levels too.

There is a good reason no modern game runs on a single core, it's just not enough.

If you don't have a modern i5K/i7K with massive OC you will get low fps in this game, and that is the game's fault.


He is not wrong in everything, i've seen a lot of people having a very high end PC and still suffering when they are playing WoW, its laughable how u can play the witcher 3 on ultra but cant play wow on ultra
And @Zappihuntard: Go in task manager, then performance, right click the CPU graph and set it to "logical processors". You will then see a graph for each core of your CPU, looking like this: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/getfile/416528

One core will be at 100% all the time in WoW, and that core will limit your fps. There is nothing you can do about it. Closing other programms won't do anything, because they would just use the other cores that WoW can't use.

BfA also has major fps drops for me, and I get like 30-40 fps in dungeons now, was much more in legion. The game is just a technical joke, but they still added even more CPU consuming stuff into it.

21/08/2018 00:07Posted by Zappihuntard
He is not wrong in everything, i've seen a lot of people having a very high end PC and still suffering when they are playing WoW, its laughable how u can play the witcher 3 on ultra but cant play wow on ultra

Yes, but he is still wrong. WoW uses "only 16%" of an i7 because it uses 100% on a single core, and it can't use more than one. A modern CPU with 4+ cores is useless in WoW, while every single other game uses 4+ cores now. That's why other games run perfectly fine but WoW runs like !@#$ ;)

Edit: And I have a Ryzen 7, so for me my CPU is well below 10% while I sit at 30fps in motherlode because WoW only uses 1 of the 16 logical cores my CPU has, while BF1 runs with 140fps no problem. It's a joke.