Are we Alliance THIS sad?

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Please show me one piece of content other than pet battles that is not kept alive by bribes and blackmail.

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I’d say random BGs since they’re really unrewarding, but then again nobody does them anymore so eh.

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Bribes that both sides equally have.

You can’t seriously be defending the current situation?

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Whole WM system is broken piece of garbage and blizzards attempts to balance things is not effective or well thought out. I can see this becoming a cycle where smaller faction turns WM off as long as they get their WM buffed.

My horde toons have their WM turned off because i got tired of being steamrolled by alliance raid while leveling solo. Then again all my alliance toons have it on because that FREE 30% experience is nice for leveling and you never have to worry about horde because of reason stated above.

Broken system conjured by incompetent devs who obviously dont even play the game.

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I think quite many things actually are, more lately than before. Was just trying to explain why in WM it is not the best way to get lot of participants who actually stay after getting their initial reward and who think “ahh this was fun, this is what i like to do on friday evenings from now on”.:smiley:

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Its mostly bad design
The same was true for the ‘kill 10 players’ for horde before the 30% change, because there were hardly any Alliance around people had to farm neutral FPs or risk not completing it that week depending on how often they could play
Its the Quest itself that becomes a problem in the current state of warmode
Edit; you can blame the faction but its Blizzards choice to design Warmode the way it is and you cant exactly blame players for doing what warmode allows you to do

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Different subject. And yes, I can be defending the current situation, at least partially.

Fair enough, where is it good to have participants who are bribed by the reward system to do that content? Let’s apply this logic to everything, not just warmode.

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It’s benefiting one side and not achieving its goal.
So it’s a failure.

It’s a shame but World PVP - brided or otherwise - is dead.

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According to you. Yet, if the goal was to spark some pvp in world pvp, the metric ton of complaint threads hints that there is more of it than there was before the system was introduced. So much for that theory…

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I think the WM participation reward is worse because it actively hinders the enjoyment of WM to those who use it just for the sake of enjoying the game, whereas stuff like Warfront is purely just a stupid random loot dispenser, but participating in it doesn’t really affect others trying to play it in any way.

The way current reward systems work is a##, no way around that, but this one reward is actively making it feel significantly worse to those who want to actually play with WM for the pvp aspect of it.

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I partially agree, and partially do not. Having for example Island expeditions and dailies be more lucrative than anything else in terms of AP gains makes everyone have to do at least a number of them, no matter if they like them or not, if they want to stay relevant in the game. The effect may not be as direct, but it still exists, and as a matter of principle it’s the same.

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You do realise you wont get a blue response on 99.9% of posts on the forums.

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I’ve only seen farming at Flight Points - then I’m assuming that WM is just turned off again.
And this lasts for what = 2 days after reset?

I wish it had encourage more people to actually have it on permanently - but this clearly isn’t the case.

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depends what “goal” you are talking about.

if that goal is to make milions of $$$ from players char transfering to welfare p2w fraction ? its working as gold

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im not talking about EU forums

im talking about US forum and main thread that reached nearly 1500 posts. not counting dozens others which are now like 300-500 posts and going

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The goal is - I think - to encourage WM to be a permanent fixture for both sides.

If people are honestly transferring for this then I’d be surprised - but it’s not an impossible theory.

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That’s because it’s very likely the vast majority of the players involved in that quest are not interested in World PvP at all.

They are fundamentally PvE players after item rewards they will use in their PvE activities.

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maybe farming flightpaths is how allience see pvp ?

dunno because they certainly dont participate in any other form of it ::slight_smile:

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I can’t say I’ve looked at what the reply ratio is. I know people feel there is more engagement from the blues over there but I still don’t think they actually want to address this.

We have a new question and Avoidance session coming up but I very much doubt they’ll want to admit their fix isn’t working.

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Yes, I agree.

The quest for the i400 has only poured fuel onto the fire and has achieved nothing but more animosity from the player base.

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