I agree and this is mostly how I operate OOC too, but I am also the kind of person who likes to discuss differing opinions with others, when we can actually just talk with eachother and I think it’s far more healthy than never expressing your opinions on some things, atleast for me personally.
They do their thing, I do my thing. I have simply expressed myself in the Forums as I am allowed to. Not only that, but IC we will no doubt be in the same places and some events even, so completely shutting myself from EVERY form of interaction with them OOC would not sit right with me either.
I have no sort of obsession with anyone either in these communities to begin with.
There’s plenty of times where there’s no point in expressing your opinion. Everyone has already observed these conversations before so we know that they don’t change minds. That’s why this comes across as you stating your beliefs for the sake of stating your beliefs. Like a lot of internet discussion, it’s a little self-indulgent and doesn’t make a significant point beyond saying “this is what I think.” You’re allowed to do that, and I’m allowed to point out that it’s not really constructive.
OOC interaction isn’t required for roleplay, nor is IC interaction necessary if you’re present in the same area or event. If you object to the point where you can’t stand being on Argent Dawn without voicing complaints about its roleplaying community, it might be healthier to just move on from Argent Dawn entirely.
You seem to be misunderstanding. I referred to a part of the community, not everyone in the community of AD EU.
Edit: To clarify more on it, again. I have differing opinions when compared to another group of people IN the AD RP community, not the whole of AD EU itself. Sorry if my earlier post did not make that clear enough to you.
Same point still applies. If you can’t occupy the same space as a community of individuals (even if they’re not the only community in that space) without voicing complaints about them, maybe you should consider vacating that space.
Which is why I have already stated before that most of the time I do not interact with a lot of people OOC who I have disagreements with, but I do keep talks up in case something needs to be clarified from IC to OOC. Don’t mistake that as me saying that I can’t seperate IC from OOC either. It does feel like you are assuming that the moment I see someone I dislike, I will without fail charge at them verbally to tell them what I disagree or dislike about them, not going to lie.
Your feelings are wrong in this case. I am simply stating that if you disagree with people that you share a space with, perhaps you should consider not sharing that space with them.
I’m saying this as someone that stopped playing WoW back at the end of 2019 and won’t be coming back to this server because of the communities and the atmosphere, even though I’m likely to resubscribe after Shadowlands comes out. I’m just checking out the forum today as a nostalgia kick.
That explains a lot. I get your point from that point of view way better now, but I am still someone who takes part in most of the Realm’s activities as a active RPer, so simply stopping from interacting with a part of the community, because I disagree with a few on the individuals from there would not really be that great for me as a RPer who takes part in stuff, but your opinion and feedback is still appreciated.
Taxania, you have the merit to come across as a player who has her head on her shoulders (or his).
You’re right when you say that debates online have the tendency to be self-indulgent. However I don’t think they are futile as you make them be. They produce changes over time.
For example, I appreciate that some faces here have arrived and said; “I don’t like this direction for the community”, as it reminds people that AD EU is more than just that direction or a huge status quo, and it allows people to work towards an alternative path. It’s not an easy thing to do but it’s important to provide diversity of opinions and create a welcoming environment (as it allows everyone to be more authentic about themselves without stepping on other people’s toes).
Having people speak up against an undesired outcome is important.
With the current state of the realm as it stands I have to strongly disagree. Its a lot like deplatforming alt-righters; I’m not against free speech and I believe there is a certain paradox that deals with this scenario, but there comes a time where certain opinions and rhetoric should not be given a platform, such as those who try to convince people that a majority population of an RP server being non RPers is a good thing.
Simply put: a majority of the server that does not RP, should not be on a server designed for such a purpose and that there are a lot more realms that are suited to those who do not RP, namely every other realm aside from Argent Dawn.
Alternatively, accept that a significant group of people are rather happy with that direction and that you’re just one individual who disagrees with that direction. There’s a point where that ‘diversity of opinions’ just becomes self-indulgent and there’s no value in the statement of opinions. “I don’t like what XYZ is doing” isn’t really a comment worth making, not when they’re just going to shrug it off and keep on doing it and especially not when they’re the ones that dominate the platform that you’re using to make the comment.
When you’re the only one that doesn’t desire the outcome, maybe you should stop considering it an undesired outcome and start considering the door.
That’s irrelevant. The guy could be contrarian or the guy could be absolutely right. All that matters is that he’s fighting an absolutely pointless battle and he’d be doing his own sanity a favour if he gave it a rest.
It sounds like you are arguing in favour of some sort of coexistence with people who have no interest in RP at all. And that we should accept them doing non-RP things in RP areas, because “that is their idea of fun”.
I do not like that sort of liberal mindset. It is based on the idea that people have the “right” to be a jackass. They don’t.
