I feel like they would make a whole new expansion just for me at this point xD
I am active on other blizz forums but never WOW but darn these guys are fanatics.
Look i am also a die hard fan of WoW lore since childhood. But one thing i could clearly see is that Arturh failed Arthas not the other way around… But this is a matter of perspective and what ever the story writers went with i am okay with it.
My bet is that Arthas ( pre frostmourne) is not evil.
PS: I think in the new expansion we learn what he did to prevent the onslaught of the scourge while “trapped” as the Lich King.
It’s simple. The part that Arthas plunge Frostmourne into Uther’s clearly shows his soul being divided, part being consumed by the sword, part going into the Shadowlands. The part that was consumed by the sword was the good and forgiving Uther, we saw it in Halls of Reflection, while the part that went to Bastion was the vengeful Uther.
I feel lore is going to Maw xD
Reading about Uther’s soul being split…my my…now that just annoys me now.
Let’s just forget all the quests and bits where his soul appears and where he is trapped in Frostmourne, not vengeful towards Arthas…and let’s just write new piece of lore where his soul is split and where he is a totally different person cause…well…who cares? Right?
Would make far more sense if Sylvanas did her all to enter Shadowlands to bring Arthas to justice there.
Her role was hunting him down and putting him to justice anyway…not Uther’s!
eh debatable he didn’t have the deus ex machina blame sword when he burned down his own ships and blamed the mercenaries or when he slaughtered stratholme
he was always a spoiled brat should have just declared him unfit to rule and exiled his whiny a s s
Just gonna point out even our own western justice system will not hold a person accountable for his accounts while suffering from a psychosis ( total blackout and los over one self) and i will leave it at that.
True, but I don’t think those actions, while deplorable, earned him a one way ticket to the Maw.
Stratholme especially was very tragic in the sense that it was a damned if you do damned if you don’t scenario that would have resulted in mass death either way.
If i came to you and i told you that you have 2 options… Kill 1 guy or not kill him and let 100 die… what would be the morally best option? your soul is f ucked at that point either way.
Most religions even point out this problem. You wont go to heaven but also not hell if you kill the 1 person. If you let him live and let him kill the 100 people then you will go to hell as you are his accomplish.
Arthas knew what would happen if he did not purge Stratholme that day and way more would die then he would “kill” that day. The people of Stratholme would have turned into undead if Arthas did not kill them… A fate way worse.
Uther would have let this happen if it was up to him sending Azaroth in a state way worse then our time lime.
https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0pUwrBWjc a friendly reminder that what seems good is not always good.
it’s kinda tragic when even Anakin Skywalker is a better person then you at least darth vader had regrets about what he had become and the wrong choices he made … arthas nope nothing …
Not finding it ironic or lazy Arthas blinded by revenge on Mal ganis now Uther blinded by “justice” just another word for it… either way Arthas getting redeemed or saved from the MaW by the end.
I feel the story is just repeating itself, not staying true to characters and making things up for the sake of ‘telling a story of Shadowlands’ whereas nowhere before was it mentioned that Uther’s soul got split in half in the first place.
I find it ridiculous that UTHER would condemn Arthas to eternal suffering, especially after all the dialogue and all the things we’ve learned and seen about him.
It suits Sylvanas, it does not suit Uther.
Now we have Uther with same personality as Sylvanas.
And again…now we have same story like in Diablo most likely. Where the Angel leaders are bad and corrupt, bla bla…Light bad…fantatics, bla bla…
I’m just so annoyed at the direction now I can’t even express it properly without exploding xD
Better story would be if Sylvanas tore into Shadowlands, hunted Arthas there, made a pact with Jailor to condemn Arthas to eternal suffering for what he did to her, in return where she’d have to feed the Jailor souls etc…
Instead we get Uther…whose soul got suddenly split (no indication about that before) and who is suddenly so ‘justice-thirsty’ (other word for vengeance) that he forgets it was the Lich King and not Arthas…
No sorry but DarthVader/Anakin is a vile human who killed kids/planets, tribes ect and in ONE act to save his son he’s redeemed? That’s movie BS right there
That’s a good point which part of his soul went to frostmourne and what ascended. Well he asked the light to save him so I guess it did in part? I’m guessing his feelings side was taken in frostmourne and his cold part ascended with out remorse again like the the sword/helm on Arthas
Show me a movie where if they knew ppl where turning into zombies they either 1 ask to be killed as a human or 2 they kill them before they turn without asking