I hate it when players pull mobs for me unless its a hunter and he knows what he is doing.
Wait what? So … let’s make flowers and red-carpets for Tanks and Healers because…they are “amazing” for picking this classes right?
Well then, what happens when THEY are toxic and leave for no reason or kick a DPS for the lolz ( it happened to me several times ), especially in Dungeon Finder?
Yup! You are acting like they are untouchable. Well, let me hear their stories as a DPS then.
Exactly …
If it’s never acceptable, then why are you never taking action?
How about everyone treat each other decent and we call it a day.
how come hackers and exploiters are not banned then
Totally agree with you but u do realise that not only dps do this right? If a healer fails a lot of tanks start to have a go as well, or a lot of tanks can be very toxic towards dps, but dps dont have the chance to get another dung within 2 min ofc
I used to do something different. This was back in the glorious days of Blood DK-invincibility. If someone talked feces I would pull the entire dungeon and let them die, then solo the thing. Super annoying for them, and proved them wrong in one move.
so, to make precious tank boi feel comfortable so he doesn’t wet his pants and leave at the first hostile comment we have to bend over backwards…no thx. id rather see previous little timmy get blacklisted.
I’ve been doing the same thing since Wrath. Good on you, mate. This is why insta-queue for tanks is a good thing.
You can make flowers and red-carpets for tanks, that would be quite nice.
But I think it’s enough to simply remind yourself that if you have nothing nice to say to them (or anyone else in the group), just don’t say anything at all.
Brave and strong one side of the story.
Doesn’t really matter, since excessive abuse is never warranted.
Except nobody has said this, so stop strawmanning
“Don’t be abusive towards tanks/healers or call them toxic terms” =/= “roll out the red carpet” quit thinking in absolutes. It is perfectly possible to call out a bad play and not be a complete douchebag whilst doing so. That’s all people are asking for.
I think others have made it clear in this thread as well, there are highly strung tanks and healers who will respond to even polite criticism badly, and in case it hasn’t been made clear, that is their problem and in that case they are the issue.
It is entirely possible to understand that highly strung and primadonna tanks and healers are a bad thing, whilst also maintaining that toxic dps are also a bad thing. They don’t excuse the other.
IDEAL remedy of a bad play:
DPS: Criticizes the play and remarks what needs to be done. By critcizes the play I mean focus on pointing out the poor play, not the player so “Those mobs can’t be tanked there, it causes them to become immune, you need to move them” rather than “wth tank are you stupid? You need to move the mobs. Omg my brain = cancer this tank”
Tank: Acknowledges the criticism and acts on it, not taking it as a personal slight, but rather an attempt to get the dungeon done successfully.
BAD:
DPS: Gives fair criticsm as above
Tank: Reacts badly, dramatically, threatens to leave etc.
I do not believe that in the cases as OP explains it is simply a case of a tank responding badly to neutral criticism. In some yes, but we can’t pretend that there aren’t these toxic type responses to bad plays etc, because they do happen.
Attempting to justify them because “sometimes tanks can be dbags” is child-like mentality. You have no right to complain about dbag tanks etc if you’re also contributing towards the toxic atmosphere in PUGs and not trying to “break the cycle”. Let dbags problems be their own problems, but throwing fuel onto the fire doesn’t help at all.
It matters since I can make the exact same post.
“Was tanking De other side, DPS was toxic, left”
But it did not happen.
did you even read op’s thread. he got called a crap tank basically. hearted out for it. if thats excessive abuse to you lot i really feel for you when you step into the real world. rude awakening in coming.
Oh, but it happens more often than you think.

and leave at the first hostile comment we have to bend over backwards
Ohhh so not being a freaking toxic clown nowadays is called “bending over backwards” Lmao.

really feel for you when you step into the real world. rude awakening in coming.
Imagine playing videogames to have fun and don’t think about irl problems.
Mind blowing for some people.

if thats excessive abuse to you lot i really feel for you when you step into the real world. rude awakening in coming.
Good thing this is a video game that people play as recreation then. It’s fully justified to not want to spend their spare time being shouted down for every minor mistake.
Doesn’t change the fact that it is one sided story.
Yes if the “dps said the tank is cancer” it is bad, I do not aim to discuss if this is quit worthy or not, as my breaking point is vastly different from the points of other people, however we do not have proof of the said interaction, we have a post that may as well be called a honey trap.

Doesn’t change the fact that it is one sided story.
True, but regardless of the sides of the story it never warrants abuse.