Absolutely wrong, The default UI is still unusable anytime of the day after a few purchases.
Fully aggreed. The only time I could use the AH with acceptable speed was at 6 AM in the morning when Stormwind was basically empty… With or without addons.
This is literally not a thing when the API is being throttled. You cannot code your way out of getting information that doesn’t come through any faster.
Can they put up some limit on max sells? Some items have hundreds of pages with overpriced orders from one seller making it impossible to go to the page with normal pricing.
They could change it to the retail auction house.
But then you’ll have storms of people screaming how it’s ruining the social aspect of posting auctions or whatever the hell it is they do when they hate on quality of life changes.
Sigh, that’s not inefficiency, despite that being the word they used.
There is, currently, only one way to get prices on all items on the auction house and that is by scanning every single item.
Price scans are used for a myriad of other addons.
Efficiency in this case would be letting addons access a full AH list through alternate means such as getting a full XML in one go rather than having to scan over and over. This would facility live updating auction prices on websites as well if that’s what you wanted.
There’s a god damned reason they changed the AH in the first place and it’s cause this OG code isn’t efficient.
Yeah, another reason why I went to mograine. Firemaw is unplayable, and it’s also monofaction + filled with gold sellers
There is, currently, only one way to get prices on all items on the auction house and that is by scanning every single item.
No, that’s not true. Current addons don’t scan every page, that is exactly what I mentioned before. Results can be sorted by unit price already, so there’s no need to request all items.
Another important note is that TradeSkillMaster already scans the AH only ONCE, and makes that info available through it’s desktop application, so that people don’t have to use GetAll scans anymore. This was not there in the original WOTLK, and things worked better even then.
Addon developers have done everything to improve their product, unlike Blizzard. The only thing Blizzard did, is to make the AH even more unusable than it was before. I’d very much like to see those improvements they promise BEFORE they ruin the current situation…
And yes, I did read the linked article. It’s simply not true.
Day 15, no official response. That is what you get for paying guys, take notes.
There’s been a special scan called “GetAll” (TSM supports it but only if there’s been nothing from the app lately, and Auctioneer used to at least) since the original wrath retail. It gets ALL items from the auction house in a single transaction. For 50k auctions on a decent machine it can be completed within 30secs. There’s a cooldown of 15mins on its use.
However this can only be used for cost basis. For cancelling and posting a live scan must be performed because, items may have been posted, cancelled or bought since.
The fact Getall makes a scan that would take 10mins+ (on a quiet realm) take less than 30secs is why I think Blizzard should implement more bulk transaction APIs for selective scans (without sorting), bulk cancel and bulk post. Because performing actions server side in bulk can be done more efficiently than a single transaction per item. They would of course need to add some kind of cooldown for this.
But it won’t happen, not because it’s a bad idea but because it would need work on Blizzard’s side. Which they’re not about to do for classic.
Yeah, I’m not sure it’s implemented in Classic though cause just scanning prices takes considerably longer than 30 secs.
I caved and got the desktop app cause I got tired of TSM stalling on trying to get a price scan. So I guess I’ve done my part to make the AH a better experience for all ><
It definitely is. I was away running linux, and leaving the TSM app running seemed to cause havoc with wow on wine. So I loaded it once to get an initial set of data and used GetAll once an hour or so. Even on the crappy potato laptop it took 30-45secs.
A full scan without GetAll would take something in the order of 10 minutes I reckon. Could even be longer.
Talking strictly from the addon here, the app just downloads from tsm servers, how they got their scan I’m not privy to.
Blizzard provide an API which TSM (their servers) collects data from. You subscribe to your realms and they will then download that data via the app into the config of the TSM addon. If you don’t use that data (or don’t reload for more than an hour) it will ask if you want to do a scan, that uses GetAll to get the latest info. If the app is running, it makes more sense to /reload.
Yes, as I said, I caved and got the stupid app
A lot of folks wont. Mainly cause making accounts and stuff sucks.
And those folks, if they do price scans, will do so painfully slow.
It’s really not that slow for me. But most of that is based on your machine, the actual download of the data is pretty fast usually. I also think they make it a lower priority request, so perhaps if your realm is really busy it’s taking a while to be processed.
This issue is becoming worse every day. Even the mail box takes 6-8 seconds per mail now. The expansion launch will make it even worse. Still no response or solution. I opened a ticket, and advise everyone else to do the same, because they clearly don’t care about this forum.
Update for anyone who’s interested, here’s the answers I got from my ticket as of now:
Basically they’re telling me to write to the EU forums (which they will ignore), but read responses on the US forums…
And there’s no promise for a solution or any expected timeframe for it.
I would give an imgur link of the whole support ticket, but apparently this forum doesn’t allow images or links of any kind to be posted, and I don’t want to risk a ban by sending it anyway…
Way to go Blizzard, nice customer support!
Absolutely. I’m pulling my hair just trying to buy mats for leveling professions.