Could you please consider implementing an automatic queue for mythic plus, in addition to organized group mode?
Since you had the brilliant idea of using a ranking system (which you didn’t develop), I don’t see why you couldn’t invest resources in finding a solution to the problem that many players are experiencing. Waiting to form a group. Not everyone is interested in creating a perfect and balanced group by carefully choosing classes and specs. Many players who enjoy engaging in this type of content should still be given a chance to play. I would like to underline that what I am talking about is very far from “blasphemy”, given that many of the most successful games, such as mobas for example, allow players to reach high ranks without knowing from the start who they will play in the team. In order not to be misunderstood, this mode, that i’m suggesting, should not replace the mode in which you can organize a group based on your preferences, but rather it would be a parallel mode to play the same type of content.
Judging by how many keys fail for whatever reason that seems like a really bad idea. There are plenty of queable and solo/flex activities in the game for players who do not wish to engage in more social aspects of the game.
so u think is better wait hours and hours then try a key and maybe fail? nice mentality, do u even play this content?
and btw judging by what criteria?
are u judging by your experience? because in that case u may be part of the reasons a key fail
A game is made by winning and losing, or u expect to win every time?
And what is this thing of social aspects? what social aspects? mythic plus are not social, what are u talking about? In an automatic queue would be no social interactions? When u are in a party u can type even if is lfg, so there is not point on what u are saying
a) I can’t speak about your experience, but when I want to do M+ or similar content I can find groups quite quickly or arrange a specific time for it depending on how people I know are available and want to play.
b) Anecdotal, both from friends pugging or comments in social media, forums etc. It is normal that sometimes keys fail but entirely automated group formation is likely to increase that - especially in the higher difficulties.
c) Nope, never said that either.
d) Well, that probably explains your problem with long waiting times.
In any case if you want to submit feedback or suggestions to the developers it must be in-game - not Customer Support forums. This thread will likely be moved to general discussion forums at some point.
You can move this thread to a more appropriate forum through the pencil in your opening post, like Raids dungeons etc as support doesn’t process feedback. Or directly submit it yourself through the ingame suggestion box as Grelier said.
One thing they should do for sure is to remove role check from every queue. When we queue in a group and we have our roles selected there shouldn’t be any need to always click accept when the leader queues into a dungeon.
We queue as a group for a reason.
I have a Weak Aura for that just auto accepts me into whatever the lead applies to
The cause of this is lack of Healers and Tanks. So unless your quew can spawn healers/tanks from thin air, it will NOT accomplish what you want.
What it WILL cause is for the existing healers/tanks to be forced into groups/comps they dont want to be in. Hence… incentivizing even LESS for them to actually participate in the quew.
It happened already with PvP solo quew. DDs went from spending 20 minutes in LFG to find a group. To waiting 40 to 1h in the automatic quew. Not an improvement if you ask me… 
So if you want to wait less time in LFG… then
- (A) advocate for NOT having an automatic quew.
- (B) ask for dungeon/roll changes to facilitate the tank/healer roll.
- (C) advocate for BIG rewards for healers and tanks. Like myth track gear drops in M+ for example. Or THEIR keys dont get depleted. Things like that. BIG rewards.
If you want to wait even MORE time waiting for a group… then be my guest. Advocate for a solo quew.
It never ceases to amaze me how keen WoW players are to replace problems with other problems.
Another thread by a DPS player basically just whining cuz they won’t get into M+ not realizing people like they are the reason there’s a shortage of tanks/heals in pug keys
Delusional to think any sane tank or healer would que up for m+ in a system like that. They might do it once and then never again.
A long queue (say 45-90 minutes), where you know you will eventually get there, can be better, for some people, than the apply/decline cycle where you may never get invited especially for classes that are not meta and don’t bring blood lust or combat res.
With that said the main problem I see is players expectations from automatic queue. Players have come to expect that they should be able to complete automatic queue instances. Blizzard even buffs players in automatic queue with dungeons having luck of the draw buff which increases hp, damage and healing by 15% while LFR has determination (5% hp, damage and healing after each wipe stacking up to 10 times). In end game content we can’t expect these debuffs to exist.
Another issue is dungeon design where some instances require a curse dispel, a poison dispel, etc.
Hoenstly ? Yes.
Because incautonated system 100 percent of keys woudl fail due to not a single good player ever using it
That is why you have your key in bag, and at worst it took me 20 min to make a group using my own key.
So i would never choose que anyway even as a dps.
Pretty sure i am able to get a group with my key about 5 to 10 times faster in no pressure.
ok, you know better. But I am reading about players who say they struggle.
I personally almost never play my key. I think I played my own key less than 5 times since they introduced M+ in legion. But I play tank, so it’s easy to find groups. Though I did play some runs as moonkin in BFA and finding group wasn’t that bad.
I guess those who have problems are those who come late to the party. In the first week, everyone is low rated, and everyone is under geared. 3-4 weeks later, and people start expecting 610 ilvl and 1000 score for doing a +2, and won’t apply to your key if you don’t match those.
No pressure also has a LFG +2-3 channel.
I just do not get it those statements of players ‘being behind’ or ‘late to the party’.
The good thing is, you can also join a key of someone else in those channels. You do not have to play your key. It is just an option since you are instant in.
You just missed a Dawnbreaker +3, set for completion with a newish tank.
This is a bad idea. You could end up with a warr tank and arms and fury warrior a rogue and a priest.
Who is gone decurse if you need it in the dungeon ?
You want random dungeon queue and random group making for m+ ? kek.
I think they should just implement it, and with that also the punishment for leavers people cry about. Just dont make it mandatory to use, i still wanna play with my premade.
I think it would possibly be worse for DPS players - at least now they can apply for stuff and get instant feedback (decline, decline, decline) rather than waiting ages for a queue to pop.
Also, what happens when you get a group when you cant control if you get a BL, battle rez, etc.
They’d have to tune dungeons so they can be completed by any class/role. I don’t think that is going to happen due to the effort.
Just removing key depletion would soften the blow for leavers, cause nothing lost.
And I tell those people the same thing. There are 10000 options to get into groups faster. Including, but not limited to, rolling a tank/healer or a “meta spec” as you mention.
But they choose NONE of those options. They want “daddy blizz” to force people to play with them. To be more specific… they want daddy blizz to force ME to play with them. That is not gonna happen.
Also. This “long quew is OK because you eventually get there” is BS. It happened before. And 99% of the times people complain anyways.
They will say that they dont log in sit in Donorgal waiting for the quew to pop. They “pay” their subscription to play their dungeons and they want it now.
That is what will happen.
To be honest. You would be 100x more successful in your keys (both in completion rate and quantity of “nice people”) if you did your own keys. And the fact that you feel any compassion for those ask for quew system shows this fact.