Automatic queue for M+

Because I actually take my time to learn dungeons instead of jumping and hoping for a carry? lol okay bud

And, you are actually one of a reasons why there should be a que. +10 is not +14, stop acting out
If you were pushing and you only have +10s done, you are a bad player and not in a place to judge others

You have a key yourself, don’t you? I have played my +9/10 key last weekend and it took every time less than 5 minutes to get a full group.

No, I dont

Yeah so you are one of those other thousands of people staring at the LFG channel to jump on a key when someone posts one. Would definitely help when more people would use their own.

My key was depleted and not by my mistakes, I play a healer, there are not thousands of healers, I am not invited because I am off meta. If blizzard would implement the system like NoP has, it would make people lives easier, no idea why you just arguing here why you love using NoP. Bored at work?

Not all keys your run is for score. M+ dungeons are fun. Your key goes up and down. When your key goes down you just run it again so it will go up again. I do not need 9’s either, but then i just +2 my +9 key and everything is fine.

Play for fun instead of only score. With having fun you play more and you will in the end have more score too.

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Yes, but I have done many keys for practice and I need to practice higher keys than +6

As I said, I do not know you, and I have nothing but good wishes for you. I do not blame you for falling behind the curve, just stating some facts about the current situation that are probably out of your control.

Just gave some advice, because trying to get into 10s sucks big time, and actually the grass is greener on the other side.

I do not decline people because I think I’m better than them and I want to hurt them, I am just doing whatever I can to make my experience better in the game. As I said the difference between the people that farm the 10s and those that have not completed one is huge, and I found that statistically, I will have a way worse experience if I “give people a chance”.

As for solo queue for m+, unfortunately I do not think it will work. As long as there is a choice to make your own group, or queue for one, the people that have the most experience will make their own group, and people that cannot get one will join a queue. This will make the queue experience way worse, so even less people queue up.

But anyway that’s just my own opinion. I have been wrong many times before.

I am not a FOTM reroller. I play RShaman as a main since BFA. And mind you, I only have 1 alt I barely play.

So what you are going through, is what I went through for 1 whole expansion (DF). And I STILL managed 3.2k and above rating. INCLUDING in S2 of DF, when HPala domination was orders of magnitude worse than RShaman is now. All that WITH the utility I have now that makes us OP apparently. In fact, I had MORE utility in DF than what I have access to in WW.

So your whining has no effect on me. Cry me a river… And you cant find keys because of other reasons. Not because of Blizz OR RShamans… Stop blaming others for your issues.

And as for RShaman domination its because of utility. For example, a short CD kick. Its great yeah ? Well you still have to heal AND use that kick at the right times and moments.

So many people reroll RShaman thinking its OP. But its not. And then go to keys and fail miserably at it. And because of that key holders that invite RShamans make a mistake. They should invite other healers. Because of all these FOTM rerollers that suck at healing.

Then a quew will make you wait for 2 hours. And will produce an even WORSE group.

And if you waited 2h to find a group, post with your main. You either lack a ton of Rio, OR, a ton of ilvl.

I dont know about Rio (but prove me wrong please. Who is your main?)… as for the ilvl :

618 is not enough. Compared to OTHER healers on the list, its low. You get Hero track gear and upgrade it to the max and you got yourself 620ish at-least. You have slacked on some gear upgrades.

If you are a healer/tank, the best way to do keys is to capitalize from the fact that DDs are desperate. Make your own key. With your own comp. And you will wait orders of magnitude less.

That is how I did it in DF. Works.

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“Sad” truth is that your item level and m+ rating affects your chances to get in groups. Like, I have no problem to get in m+ 1-7 groups as dps and most of time I get pretty quickly in +8 groups too as dps. But beyond that it gets harder as I havent yet done many +9/10 mythics.

Mythic dungeons isnt meant for solo players and they shouldnt be treated as well. Its like old style vanilla dungeons where you gather your group and go to dungeon entrance. Having friends or guildmates helps at start to learn the mechanics.

It may be annoying to not get into groups but to solution to that is to find a good guild and friends. Its MMO after all and back in vanilla without guild you couldnt do anything real end game content alone and raids/m+ are the only contents which require guild atm. Everything else is soloable.

If you take 1 month to “learn” it already sais something. Compared to others that take less time.

I went through that process myself. Timing every 9 before trying a 10. But it did not take 1 month.

Your key is a 6+. Its the M+ scene here, and we are ALL doing it at our own level. You cannot expect to time each and every single key you do. Nor can you expect to target specific key levels for “practice”.

Every single one of us is ping-ponging between keys we still havent timed, and levels bellow it. Join the club and dont expect to be a special snowflake.

As for practice, you absolutely can practice on a 6+. Try healing for less. Try being more reactive to sudden damage intakes… you can learn thing from even a 2+.

Only if they make 100 waves of endless proving grounds (MoP tuning, no idea if they still exist or are remotely challenging) a requirement to queue.

It works in a way but the signup discord bot is not a “first come, first served basis”. Keyholders still have the right to decline people if they are seriously undergeared or underexperienced(getting removed from a +7 while you best m+ is an untimed +2 will NOT get you in trouble with the mods).
Or the group needs to have a specific comp like you dont go stonevault with 3 mele with no ranged interrupts and etc.

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To add to this; using the signup bot isn’t required.

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I am not FOTM either and I have played different healers before, it was neve as bad as it is now

It will not. It does not work like that, instead of people taking shaman they will just take any healer

I have timed GB same level as you 4 weeks ago, there is not problem taking your time when you play dungeons. You can check if I lie since you know my char name
Most people wanted to rush to get a carry by people who play now +13, I can see it clearly in +10 now among DPS and tanks.

Worse than S2 of DF with Exocia comp? Or were you playing HPala back then ? :slight_smile:

The impression you have is that all the payer-base has been funneled to the top-end of the M+ progression system. In the top end there has always been a meta. For various reasons.

Let me remind you that a the pros are doing +14s. A +10 is 4 key levels lower than the pros. In ANY season, if the pros were doing +32s, were talking +28 here (S3). So its NORMAL that the meta is required for those key levels !!!

And any DPS. And any tank. And healers will flee from that crappy system. Like it already happened with Heroic Dungeons and Solo Quew.

I forgot who your main was.

Regardless. You claim to have timed a GB11 (GB12 untimed) 4 weeks ago ? Your statements make even less sense now.

How are you still with 617 ilvl ? How is it that you need to learn anything in keys bellow a 12 ? How is it possible that people refuse a 2700 RIO healer for a 10 ? Not possible. I just dont believe you.

I have half a guild which are not RShamans with half the RIO you have actively farming 9s and 10s. Dosent make any sense.

Same level as you timed 4 weeks ago

You also timed most 9s only two weeks ago, nothing wrong with starting doing +10 now

Correction, I was timing 8s and untiming 9s 4 weeks ago. With 606 gear. Now I am timing my first 12s.

Your comments still dont make sense.