I don’t understand why people are crying about the AV changes. From what I see as a wow vanilla player is that it’s much more fun now to play AV. Instead of just blindly racing to who kills the boss first, while hunters and mages do their annoying work by slowing down the opposing team. You now get more honor and rep from properly playing the battle. Kill NPCs, cap GY, towers and bunkers, kill players, and cap mines. I did like 5 AVs today (most won on horde side because every one was doing what they’re supposed to do) and got around 30k honor. It was so much fun (even the ones we lost) and I can’t wait until I play again tomorrow. I really hope blizz doesn’t go back on this change.
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So they finally changed it?
Im glad i got exalted before this change to be honest.
Longer av game by itself i have no problems with.
The problem is that you rewarded for fast games and punished by longer games.
If they made so games rewards you with more honor or rep by taking towers,killing hordes or other objectives it would be fine.
Before it was around 8-9 hours to get to exalted if you won each game. Now it will probably be 50 hours or more on a seasonal seever:s
How about this, learn to play the actual battleground and stop trying to zerg? you might win one
Love how this #noChanges andy keeps saying ppl to learn how to play the actual bg while he was asking for changes on Alcaz island cause apparently it was too hard for him to play the pve grind and faction pvp game. Go back to DD server instead if you like the 20yo version of the game.
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Please explain how something is much more fun to play when you stuck doing the same thing constantly for 10-40 minutes a day getting easily 50-65% less rep and honor than everyone else who did it first 2 weeks
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Thats not true and you know it. Why do you lie to us? I assume you are that guy who got rank 10 with braindead racings and do not want other people have possibilities to farm honor and rep as easy as you did.
The racing honor/rep per hours was like 50k honor and 2k rep. Right now its 3-4 times less.
There is no reason for blizz devs not to increase honor and rep gain for killing leutenants/commandors and burning towers. Even they can add additional honor for rechecking graveyards and towers too. No limites, make the AV more fun and competitive to a honor gain.
Right now there is zero reason to go AV if you can farm 30-40k honor per BRM event.
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I’d say that 6 min rush is boring! This actually has you playing.
Sounds like a “you” problem for starting late. I intentionally didn’t want to play it cause of how brain dead it was, regardless of the rewards.
Another “you” problem. If you don’t try to zug it, but defend and grind out bunkers, you can win. And if they try to zug it, just mount a defense. Hunters with traps, mages with improved rank 1 blizzard. These are known strats.
And that sounds like a “you” problem too. See? If the only thing you have to bring in is the “your problem treatment” then you get that too.
Also, nice try on teaching 1 how to play in a 40 man bg where half of the team is AFK-leechers, bots and ppl that act like bots but give you the “i’m trying to learn, don’t be toxic” excuse when the only thing they do is getting 1-shot even when you try to tell them smt like what you said (go to frost trap choke points etc).
At least with rush meta you could get done with most matches fast and /afk with deserter only on cancerous matches.
(AND YES MODERATORS I USED THE WORD CANCER, FEEL FREE TO BAN ME SINCE THAT’S THE ONLY THING YOU AND DEVS CARE ABOUT)
Was not near 50k honor an hour for horde, the rep was higher tho
Nonsense…
this is when i started having fun in AV. ITS A PVP BATTLEGROUND. its not a sprint and ignore eachother. so stupid ppl want that
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Finally, someone with sense
Before: Drek or Kek
Today: Is always kek
I dont think is unfair to skip entire system of game how should work just because ppl want easy way, abusing runes which was not original plan in classic. You never could kill for example Drek without doing towers etc.
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I mean that is what we were doing it even before so idk what do u mean by that. only fool would fight on middle and not do single thing in av.
U can do it click one more time on <3 i dont need likes xDD
im R10 on two char i still do alterac just for fun 
Never been 50k. 20k at best. When you rush AV under 6 min you barely reach 2k honor per run. If you could run 10 perfect 6 min/win in an hour you’d get 20k from AV and 4k from marks of honor.
Alliance seems to win even less that it used to but I got some wins under 8 min with galv/lieutenants down and it amounts to nearly 3k honor per win. Most games are still under 10 min so I don’t think the changes where sufficient enough to really modify the rush meta.
Well, ppl are wearing more t1/wb/ony gear now aswell to lower those gametimes.
Further tweaks are soon needed or we will have 5min games again soon
This problem will persist and need constant changes with each gear upgrade our characters will get. The only solution seems to be giving the AV bosses invincibility while all the warmasters are up, sort of like Ashenvale.
They could make it so that once at least one tower gets burnt down the invincibility gets replaced by a strong buff to the boss.
As it is I was trying to complete some of the quests on an alt and the games are over before I clear the mobs to capture a mine, while before you could do all the quests in one game.
I know people care about honor and rep and not quests but still, under 10 minutes AV doesn’t feel right.