People exploit bugs to only pullout the WMs and reset Drek/Vann, would be a good idea otherwise.
now that this game has been played through so many times, that there are guides to everything everywhere and min max can be just googles, ppl will go for the easiest way to get most honor and rep as fast as possible to meet the BIS requirements for the content that really does not need pre BIS or BIS.
i also ran 8 AV this weekend. was very easy and we won most of the BGs. pressed Autowalk, corrected the mouse 6-7 times, right clicked the npcs and went home. naturally everybody does that. its simpel and easy and rewarding.
if they would change it up… let’s say, taking a tower gives (going crazy here) 300 honor and deffending a tower gives 500 honor (each tower only once per round), than maaaaybe ppl would consider more of a fight. or give a reward, if 0 tower went down, 2k extra honor and so on. out a timer on the BG like 20min and be done with it.
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I bet (and hope) that when everybody is exalted+rank 10 the nice BGs will pop again and AV is simply the playground for those who for whatever reason love 10 hrs games without rep and honor after an hour. Yes, I dislike this stupid PvE-BG. Better engage or get engaged in WPvP.
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very good point.
i used to play BGs for the BGs but since the last few years… players just grind up the most easy way to reach rep and gear and than log out and come on with the next twink. hardly ppl just going in to face of and have a fight.
Well, if it only was possible to get half the honor through AB/WSG I’d personally never set a foot into AV. AB with a definite end after latest 30 min is top.
Cause every battle is kind of different. Some battles are won faster than others, some are more PVP than PVE, some take forever to finish with continuous offense and defense… and many more 
Well sorry to disappoint you but I’m still rank 8 and no I don’t just farm honor braindead, hence why I said it’s much more fun now to honor farm.
Yes there is a reason to do AV and that’s because there is a one hour wait between BRM eruption. So it’s best to do a few AV in between to maxmise the honor gain and have more fun playing the game. Instead of complaining about it online
Because playing an orc and a broken class ontop of it takes somuch effort to play. It is bloody shameless how overtuned this class is. Has been in a league of his own since P2 and no changes even in P4.
Hunters in AV on bridge before Alli base is pretty feked up i have to say.
1 Hunter can delay a whole raid. 2 is insane
Nobody enjoys SoD PvP expect for the people playing hero classes like Shaman and Paladin.
Let AV return to a PvE race. It’s an MMO for god sake, it’s an inherently PvE game. Look at WSG and AB right now, DEAD, why? because nobody actually enjoys PvP and doubly aren’t going to enjoy it when Blizzard aren’t even attempting to balance it.
paladin and hero class LOL. spoken like a true horde clown.
I hate to break it to you… but your class is OP. You haven’t suddenly become a god-gamer, you’re just playing a class that Blizzard have decided not to try and balance.
And that’s it really, PvP has to have some degree of fairness, or nobody will want to do it, and SoM is the worst balanced PvP i have ever seen in WoW.
What part of paladin has changed so significantly that they finally change their matchups?
Hint: Nothing changed.
Every class got changes that either break or make their viability.
Shamans/Boomies still dumpster any paladin any time of the day and week and it isn’t even remotely close. Would be good if you learned anything about balance before you talk weird information and propaganda.
See the problem is you’re doing more damage than a warrior while still having two bubbles.
That is an issue because it’s hideously overpowered. Traditionally paladins traded damage for their ridiculously strong bubbles and you know… being a healer.
How they get it all for free, which is a major issue. Now shamans and druids are also issues, but that doesn’t mean paladins get a free pass to be OP.
In summary: nerf them all, or give up on PvP and let people just do PvE AVs.
Warrior has been overlooked for too long, also it’s one bubble only, get your facts right. Forbearence isn’t gonna run full DR before you or enemy dies, just the truth over here.
“strong bubbles” what are you smoking?
Make distance from a paladin and he isn’t gonna do squat. If paladin was so OP, then all those shaman haters would say differently, yet paladin is not even remotely OP, it’s decent at the very best in PvP.
You haven’t played SoD at all have you? Paladins have mana issues and to combat that means taking Guarded by the Light, a mana regen that activates on melee hit.
Said buff reduces our healing by half, now start finding a class that has to pay a healing reduction tax for healing. Nobody else has to deal with nerfed healing.
Shamans spam overtuned healing and druids can heal for loads, for effectively 0 mana thanks to Shamanistic Rage/Innervate/Fury of Stormrage + have actual mobility.
Not bothered about the class mechanics of Paladins really, all I know is that I have to avoid them at all costs because they kill me effortlessly while having an absolute and total escape.
GG balance please.
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Just played around 8 games, seems the same to me, none of the games lasted more than 8mim
they need to buff marshals
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When u play with normal people and they know what to do yes even in tbc our matches was lasting something like that. But when u play with toxic people can last even 30 min and people like that r a lot since they want honooor they dont want to do pvp event in brm and later complains on forum how world pvp is dead.
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You r so wrong here about druid and it is insane how much u r wrong lol
Only who can heal constant with no mana issue is priest and thanks to 3 cd for absolute mana free and now with druids gets 2 bonus tier where can cast inneravate on someone and got 100% effect they r busted. But tho as for me I will always innerate dps at this point.
Druid in sod is not like in wotlk where can heal and heal without any mana issue is very scuffed and every heal cost a lot so u cant just spam as insane unlike some people here…
After getting a critical effect from your Flash of Light, Holy Light, or Holy Shock heal spell, gives you a 100% chance to gain Mana equal to the base cost of the spell.
And even if u take Guarded by the Light rune which u dont at this point of game u dont do that entire fight lol few hits when is there nothing to heal u can do between heals.