AV queue times

[Bewarê-frostmane]

@Tartanangel-ashbringer

Yes all those things matter but will effect both sides and no Allience don’t have the time to drink defending ibgy if you have to Rez someone or are oom when you drink the horde will actually be back in time for the next attack wave before your topped off. which is not the same for allience in shgy but then again you will completely ignore that factor as you said its it’s only PvP that matters even tho one side has it more easy.

You talk about the Allience first clash advantage have you even looked at the map your start position is halfway up the map the first clash is one of 4 things

1. side of Belinda hut where both sides are staggered but the flanksplits up the allience nobody has an advantage here as horde will Die back at shgy and wipe the split Allience resets the fight
2. horde are waiting to pick players advancing to ibgy horde advantage.
3. the Allience wait on shgy to pick off advancing horde Allience advantage.

Allience hide and both pass eachother capturing each others Gy horde advantage with cave respawn.

First 3 events don’t transition to capturing a graveyard 100% mostly just resets the encounter until one side sneaks past or wins.

As I said in my first post map advantages plus honor system is the reason why you don’t get Allience queuing and it will only get worse it’s not PvP which is causing these abysmal win rate look at other symmetrical battlegrounds

Sorry, but your English isn’t on a level where it can be properly understood. I really don’t have any idea what you said in a few places.

Anyway, to summarize:

According to your definition of map advantage, and how much significance you claim it carries, it should therefore be nigh impossible for Horde to ever cross mid since past mid there are a lot of Alliance NPCs & elites, and Alliance have a closer graveyard.

According to your definition, the only chance Horde would have would be to secure SF GY first before moving up.

Yet because the “PvP ability” tends to be so skewed towards only one side, this is almost never the case. Horde can almost always just rush up past mid and ignore disadvantages, because the Alliance aren’t putting up enough of a fight to begin with.

Thus, PvP is what decides the BG. And this is not something new. It has always been like this ever since the premade exploits got shut down. Which can be explained with:

@Bewarê-frostmane

Except there is no map issue.

You have one faction getting massacred in WPvP? People lose faith in their faction.
You lose BGs outside of premades? People then flock to premades when they are interested in trying hard to win.

What you’re left with is people who aren’t interested in trying hard from start to finish in AV, because if winning is what they’re interested in then there are much more convenient alternatives in other BGs. So you’re left with the casual “whatever happens will happen” crowd, who gives up at the slightest sign of trouble.
So because you can’t do premade exploits in AV as easily anymore, of course you get the “winners” flocking to other BGs.

Widespread mindset issues have been the problem plaguing the Alliance side ever since the WPvP chaos pre-BGs.