AV.... wtf happened to horde performance?

Horde can do the same premade thing if they want to. I dont believe this is fixable. Give us some ideas of how they could @khovane?

They can nerf it even more, not that hard, and they probably will because horde cant lose av

Lol ok nobody said a fix isn’t possible, but we’re not talking about that

We’re talking about you calling them actual premades and asking for bans which won’t happend

King’s honor, friend.

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Welcome to Alliance P3-6.
You are complaining.

easy, only allow 2 teams of 5 to be matched in one game. Randomise allocation and don’t match people that queued within the same minute with one another.

It’s abuse of game mechanics, ppl are organising on discord and abusing a mechanic to get ínto the same match which obvoiusly wasn’t intended. Yes, by now it’s abuse and bans will be well deserved. Not everyone will be banned, but they will make an example of a few obvious premades to deter everyone else from doing that.

You’ve got a fair point coming from the other side. But shall we nerf the Undead racial too to help the alliance out. After all that is not fair that they get technically 2 trinkets in arena? In hindsight Blizzard cant make it fair for everyone in the PVP spectrum, someone will call the unfair card.

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This mechanic was there in tbc too, what makes you think that it is abuse bow when it wasnt before?

let the ally win lol, we won WHOLE CLASSIC lol, it took allys over 2 years to find out how they should win AV, let them win for once lmao

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But Reddit told me that Horde wins all the BGs?

There was already a blue post on the US forums stating that groups of players coordinating when to click “join first available” is not considered an exploit or against TOS.

It’s just a consequence of having a smaller player pool to choose from that allows some of these teams to be grouped together into the same AV. The thing is that it’s now taught the casual pug players how to win and more ally players are adopting the same tactics as the guys who are leading these games.

You will never get a full 40 man premade team using this method maybe like 5-20 players max. There’s nothing stopping horde players joining in a 5 man team and leading the pug players also. You only need a few players that know how to play AV to do this effectively.

What’s more concerning is that there seems to be some win trading going on in HvH matches. There’s reports of horde players purposely throwing matches if they’re playing with the alliance masks in BGs.

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Lol so what they gonna ban a few people, limit number of premades which will give the perfect excuse for every single Alliance player to start queueing in group out of spite for HvH and completely block AV for the Horde

Or they don’t limit 5 man groups and in 3 weeks every Alliance player will sit on discord stomping horde, banning 20 people will mean absolutely nothing here.

The only solution is allowing HvH in AV so the premade limit can be enforced without long queue times. Horde will get matched against each other but alliance will still stomp without the limit.

nope. that post was dug up, it was posted 14 years ago lmao. I’m sure you know because it was pointed out already.

horde is so bad in AV atm, we deserve to LOSE, all my bgs r ZUG ZUG RUSH SKIP ALL FREE HONOR ZUG ZUG KILL VANN GET 3 MARK ZUG ZUG

There are no other statements from Blizzard, and until then

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/3686814071-av-premades-an-exploit/
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Tears for the tears god ! We warned You , your attitude in game and on the forum hordes is untolerable , you will not hear the unbalance the Alliance suffer, you’re gonna suffer the consequences , you cannot stop us this isn’t classic where few people cared now it is tbc classic you’re not gonna be let any advance.

Also pepelaugh you can’t stop anyone from premading enjoy the ride !

No they won’t. “You’ve been banned for queuing at the same time as someone else” - that would be insane and Blizzard aren’t stupid enough to scare people from joining BGs incase they catch a ban. They want Alliance to join BGs more. Please don’t delude yourself when you have zero knowledge of their opinion on this.

Horde will adapt. Sooner or later the majority will learn to ninja SHGY while going for mid bunkers, instead of trying to hold them while they respawn easily at SH.

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Lol They will ban no one, nothing , squat , nada , have at you Khovane we even came and told you how it would unfold who is gloating now !

HAHAHAHAHAH

ban em for playing the game

It’s almost like balance wasn’t the issue and it was just the attitudes of the players. Because if it was about balance horde would still be winning. So no, definitely not that!