Stop being paranoid you forum warrior. Alby raised a fine point there and you instantly attacked him. Taking folllower dungeon is taking an L yes, but have you TRIED world pvping on Roleplay shard as Horde? As something that is not a night elf druid? Then shut up because you don’t know what it’s like.
I do agree that it has to go but as long as it’s there and I’m getting piled on by 10 guys all the time because thats what the my shard balance is like, I will gladly take the follower que than give the satisfaction to the zerg.
Im exclusively a solo player I always have been.
During Wrath i was on a horde dominated server and i used to go solo vs Orgrimmar.
So im not some snowflake that simply chosen to play a night elf druid- i simply always was a night elf druid.
I dont pretend that Its not though to be on a alliance dominated server, but its not like I made the choice for you- quite the contrary.
Its clear that Im not refering to this.
Thats whatever, I dont even feel satisfaction killing someone 10v1, and if i am in a 10v1 situation its mostly not by my desire.
There situations that are equal advantage for both parties and people will still resort to cheating via Follower Que.
Shut the hell up with this edgy nonsense, nobody gives a damn you’re all above 20 , act like it , holy crap.
Bees be with you and then a whole guild brag for 1.6 rating
what the hell.
cringe.
Hmm, okay, I agree—the whole follower dungeon thing has gotten way out of hand. I preferred it when I was the only one doing it, haha! But honestly, I find this a bit rich coming from you. I’ve seen you do it personally and I even have video proof. It’s just a little annoying that you’re acting holier-than-thou when, well… you do it too.
First I want to say that i learned about the Follower Dungeons trick 5 days ago. (and i never used it, not a single time)
Second You’re refering to me being called in a battleground/arena.
Third We met more than 30~ times in WPvP and the first 10 times I never did it while you were doing that from the start and our very very very first encounter non-stop along with other shenanigans.
As of the times where I did it (probably not more than 5 -6 instances total) were arenas anyway, so I couldnt really decline.
While admitedly there were times where Id que Skirmish just to show you that what you do is annoying.
Also its not that im acting “holier” i call all sorts of bad practices without being too radical about it.
I think for wow to function at a non-toxic level, some common ground must be regained.
WPvP is chaotic, we all get it, yes, im not even trying to criticize that nor change it but being immortal isnt something that is natural for any game.
It just has to go.
Honestly, I never need to waste my own brainpower on replies here. Every single one of my responses is AI-generated because, let’s face it, you’re just not worth the mental effort. If you think arguing with me here gets under my skin, joke’s on you—it’s all a program doing the work. Have fun debating code.
If you learned about the Follower Dungeon trick only five days ago and never used it, why even bring it up? Seems like you’re trying to preemptively defend yourself from accusations no one even made. But fine, you admitted you used it in arena situations a handful of times. Does that make you better or worse than anyone else doing it? Not really—it just shows you’re willing to break your “holier-than-thou” stance when it suits you.
As for your point about WPvP being chaotic, yeah, we all get it. That’s the whole point. If you’re mad someone’s exploiting a mechanic to stay “immortal,” maybe the issue isn’t them—maybe it’s the game design. Report it and move on. But calling for “common ground” in WPvP? That’s laughable. WPvP thrives on chaos, salt, and grudges. Asking for civility there is like asking for a shark to politely nibble instead of bite.
Dude you’re resorting to gaslighting behaviour and twisting my words and you wonder why I talk to you the way that I do, literally every interraction with you in any thread leaves random side topic the focus of the thread instead because you wonna jump around, arguing semantics and random nonsense people didnt even mean.
I didnt come here to do any alternate motiovation.
I literally saw that Follower Dungeons are a fool-proof way of doing this, and I think its absurd. At least BGs and arenas give a deserter buff, do not insta-popup and much more, which created some inconvinience for repeated use.
I didnt come saying I was better? thought u wonna strawpick the handful (5-6) situations where i did it specifically against a guy who does it against me way before I did against him, more than 20 times simply to send a message.
But okay.
I can simply say “people are entitled to change and i simply changed my views- this practice is toxic and has to go”
I never said that I am not okay with Wpvp being chaotic, quite the oposite, im very familiar with it and i am totally okay with it, however fool-proof immortality is a ridiculous concept.
It doesnt matter whos fault it is ? Idk why you’re bringing this up, i quite frankly questioned the design and I want it changed. Simple as that.
Theres no alterior motives, theres no names I wonna call though i got a particular distaste for 2 rogues in Gold Shire who nonstop do this, i refrain from calling them out.
I simply want it resolved.
Thats not even what I said, you’re twisting intentionally the context of which “common ground” was used simply to sound smart. Your sentence doesnt even have a focus, its just nonsense slapped on a black background.
Heres the full sentence. Tell me where exactly do you get what you’re getting ? To me the sentence clearly communicates that I am not aiming for anything radical, simply the concept of immortality by abusing a mechanic in PvP that originates from PvE with its purpose being transporting you to a dungeon, shouldnt be as easily and fool-proof abusable.
I also clearly communicate that I dont advocate or want any other changes to World PvP in the most direct way possible.
You got the heart of a caward my boy, but as long as you stay out of my way > I dont mind you eat- just not at my table.
You’re very unwelcome here, especially because of the pathetic and couvert ways you use to get your twisted delussions of a healthy argument across.
Melodramatic ? I am.
Link me where I am being toxic in your comment section btw.
Since you accuse me of something I never even did.
Man, you’re really putting in the hours to defend yourself over… what exactly? Exploiting a broken mechanic a few times because someone else did it first? That’s not some noble crusade; that’s just revenge with a side of justification. But hey, let me break it down for you since you’re going all-out here:
First, you keep accusing me of twisting your words or gaslighting, but the irony is you’re doing mental gymnastics to explain how your use of the exploit is somehow justified while anyone else’s isn’t. You admit to doing it but somehow still play the victim card. It’s impressive mental flexibility, I’ll give you that.
Second, I didn’t call you toxic in YouTube comment sections—that was an AI-generated quip to match the tone of the conversation. But seeing your long-winded replies, you might just be proving the AI right about unnecessary dramatics.
Third, let’s stop pretending this thread is about “fixing the game.” You’re here airing out personal grievances with rogues in Goldshire, acting like a self-appointed crusader for fairness while refusing to acknowledge your own part in perpetuating the problem. Sure, you can say, ‘I changed my views,’ and that’s fine. People grow. But don’t act like your 5-6 instances were somehow justified just because someone else did it more. Two wrongs don’t make a right, my dude.
Finally, your whole “common ground” argument is a moving target. You’re saying immortality exploits need to go (fair enough), but then you’re layering on the claim that I’m twisting your words because I pointed out that civility and fairness aren’t really staples of WPvP. Guess what? They’re not. Immortality exploits are broken, yes, but WPvP thrives on unfair advantages—stealth, gear gaps, and rogue vanish macros are all proof of that. You want to fix one aspect? Cool. But don’t act like you’re out here solving toxicity when the mode itself is designed to breed it.
At the end of the day, you can call me a coward, melodramatic, or anything else you want. But what you’re really mad about is that I’m not taking your arguments seriously. Why would I? Like I said before, every reply you get from me is AI-generated because the energy you bring isn’t worth engaging with personally. Stay pressed, stay predictable, and have fun chasing rogues in Goldshire. I’ll be here letting the AI handle my side of the conversation while I enjoy life elsewhere.
Imagine claiming you’re not reading AI-generated responses while you’ve been glued to them every single time we’ve interacted. Thanks for staying consistent, even if it’s just to entertain yourself. Get well soon.
Ay , I mean, its a “forum” implying the definition from oxford dictionary:
“An event or medium where P E O P L E can exchange opinions and ideas on a particular issue; a meeting organized for this purpose”.
Foruming requires a human discipline but you maybe are not getting that you’re outing yourself so ill use a funny comparison:
You are the type of guy who goes on a bike race with a donkey and the result of the raise is just a bunch of weird donkey noises, laughs from the crowd and dookey on the road.
BTW thanks for proving everyone that you got no spine, from defending abusive practices to using AI to generate nonsense in your name.
You know, I think your biggest disdain for all this follower dungeon stuff is that it finally rivals your precious shadowmeld + instant druid flight form trick. (Your signature move, no less.) You, more than any other druid, have mastered exploiting it in world PvP. But now? There’s something equally frustrating—and anyone can do it. Taste that? That’s called medicine, my friend.
Now, let me preface this by saying I don’t actually mind you that much, Alessthra, nor do I want this to come off as some kind of witch hunt. But honestly, you’ve got this self-righteous vibe that’s downright infuriating to watch. It’s like you think you’re the king or queen of the shard or something. Newsflash: you’re not even the top druid—Sredder snagged that title ages ago…
Its on 2 mins cooldown. Can fail. You can root me and shoot me down. Its literally an ability- you cant compare it.
The closest to that is Vanish → Mount. Or trap + Feign Death + mount, Feign Death being of close to 3x lower CD than Shadowmeld. You even do it on your mage with invis, so what are you calling me out on exactly?
You’re entirely delusional if you think you should be the person to say that, you side piece character in Shrek.
Me either, but you feel like you gonna call me out on stuff i barely even do while thats your practice even when we faced on equal ground.
So close your mouth, im mostly speaking about the practice itself, not about a specific person. You guys telling on yourselves is another story.
Self-righteous vibe ? Too bad, since you guys called yourselves out and now you mad at me for simply pointing what happened. You shouldnt have tried to call me out on something i didnt even do in the first place.
Now you’re stuck with me.
So suck it up buttercup.
Newsflash: I dont really care nor im trying to be ?
Also dont compare me to this lack of character guy, who is boosted in his HOTA.
Also what title, i folded him like a chair multiple times when hes alone and even 1 time when he wasnt.
The whole horde scene in AD is a bunch of 1.6 guys who take themselves too seriously to even comprehend their own Duning Krueger.
I never said I was the best, i never wanted anything besides to remove 2 thing:
Premades in terms of que Syncing.
Follow Dungeon exploit.
Thats all, thats bellow bare minimum for you to call it “self- righteous” since this will benefit everyone.
If theres anything selfish its the act of entitlement that you display when it comes to immortality.
Wait , i think that ?
thats totally not a projection right ?
Am i the one who has a guild named after an area where they gank farmers ?
Am i the one who has a guild slogan along the sorts of:
Am I the one feeling entitled to mobing against players ingame and in the forum, you guys take yourselves so seriously that you even made youtube video adressing some random guy who you were farming thinking anyone truly cares?
Am i the one here who is entitled to a broken mechanic that practically makes you fool-roof immortal at the click of a button?
I think Im the king of wpvp ? where do you get that ? is it because you guys feel called out ? clue me in ?
Who identifies here with exclusively World Pvp, is it me, or you and your pixel gangster mobsters ?
Im a grown person, I identified with world pvp when i was twinking at 39 and 59 levels, 15 years ago, when i was 14.
Now i identify with the person who i am, i am a casual player, defending new to casual players.
A game is where both parties can have a chance at wining or losing.
You being entitled to win everytime at the cost of anything, is a ludacris example of an inflated ego.
The fact that you want to gaslight me that im the bad guy is also crazy.
Stop deflecting and just say it as it is- it doesnt matter who does it, its bad, should go away and lets call it a day.
I get that its difficult to have a pvp etiquette, thats why i rather have the follower dungeon thing changed.
p.s.
I am not blaming the players, i am blaming the system.
But if i see an oportunity to bash this Alby dude- i will do it regardless.
No, none of the above are as broken as shadowmeld + flight form in world PvP.
I’m calling you out for throwing a hissy fit over others doing essentially the same thing you do—the only difference is, your class and race handed you a ‘get out of jail free’ card. I’ve seen you pull it off plenty of times: apply bleeds, mount up, fly away, then swoop back in when it suits you—or when the heat’s on.
You completely lost me here so I can’t really comment…
Not really. Everyone does it at this point—the difference between us and you is that we own it. Meanwhile, you spin some lame story about how arenas and BGs conveniently pop every time you’re at 5% health. Sorry, not buying it. And even if that were true, you’re still exploiting the system to achieve the same result. No matter how you slice it, you’re part of the problem. Oh, and by the way, even here on the forums, you’re trying to shadowmeld and hide. Nice try, but guess what? No flight form here, bud—you’re not getting away from this one.
Well then, turn on Warmode outside of Elwynn Forest, bud. Come on in—the water’s lovely. My 1.6 comrades are absolutely starving, and they haven’t eaten in days.
But you won’t. Last I saw, you were scurrying into a follower dungeon on Siren’s Isle to escape certain death—oh, wait, excuse me cough cough—it was a “BG or arena queue pop,” wasn’t it? Funny how things change when you can’t just fly away…
Thx that you gave me the info that follower dungeons is the solution to avoid a group of gangstalkers which went after me very often. i like wm on an openworld pvp but not 1vs 3 all time . Now i have the key to avoid these guys ^^.
Anyone knows if an addon exist what queues automatic for follower dungeon an does not pop up in the middle of the screen so that i can join immediately when attacked ?
Im not throwing a hissy fit.
Im just stating the fact: this shouldnt be in the game.
Yes, vanish and feign death do literally the same. This is a spell. It was specifically designed to do what it does-> drop combat.
Follower Dungeons are not intended to be used like that. Theyre inteded to get you familiar with PvE, and they have no job in PvP.
I completely lost you with this comment? you want me to repeat?
Since the first time we met you been using ques to get to survive.
And the diference is -you’re even defending the practice.
Why you lying ? ive done this no more than 5-6 times at most.
The first 20 times, you were using this exclusively and now you wonna twist it as if i initiated this first.
No buddy, i do this exclusively with you and exclusively our last encounters just to show you how dumb this is.
Seemingly you think this is some equalizer.
But when does the equalizer stop → gliders, health pots, flasks ? You literally got a God complex and then called me arrogant.
No im not, i do it exclusively with you and that Ssreder groupie, since they also do it.
And i dont play the game that often for more than 6 months, im pretty sure you used this beyond 400 times by now.
I dont mind you putting it that way, as long as you admit its problematic.
So you do agree after all with me , and Follower Dungeons exploit should be fixed.
Good, we made some progress today.
https:// www. youtube. com/watch?v=eaeZ3RrzpLA
Keep lying , i saw you IRL walking naked.
You’re aware that i can just click on Experimental Go-Pack right ? on top of that i can also leap + parachute right after.
Ive been in PvP exactly one time on Siren Isle, and it was a group of players who killed the moment i teleported there before my PC even loaded the models fully, so i was running around with 20 fps.
So again goodjob in killing someone 3-4 v 1 i guess ? idk how many you were, but i was almost dead by the time my loading screen was done.
Its funny how you yapp about this being an alliance shard but when you’re met with a single player who told you many times - i am a lone ranger, you have to face them 3-5 v 1 every single time.
And all of the 1v1 situations are you or someone from your self important delulu land pixel mobsters who cant even pronounce words properly using Follower Dungeon que.
