The issue with follower dungeons is not the concept, it’s the implementation and the way you enter it to be specific.
Solution to this is simple as there already is a working mechanic in-game that would prevent people from abusing it. When you want to enter “The Proving Grounds” you have to talk to an NPC and it immediately puts you in the instance so you don’t have time to run around cheating death with it. Same mechanic used to enter TW raids. So have the follower dungeons work in this way, not with LFG framework.
The concept is fine. It gives casual or new players chance to play the story and get to know the dungeons without the preassure of toxic tryhards, while not giving any substantial reward so as to not discourage actually playing dungeons as they are intended latter on.
So just add an NPC to an inn in Dornrogal or other player hub, or just have innkeeper do it, because if D’n’D and collage taught us something, its that every adventure starts in a local pub
Ah, Alessthra, once again you’re spinning a web of contradictions while trying to juggle self-righteousness and victimhood. Let’s break this down:
Follower Dungeon Exploit
You’ve said countless times, ‘It’s not about me, it’s about the practice,’ yet every reply from you drips with personal grievances and thinly veiled attacks. You’re quick to throw shade at people for “calling themselves out,” but let’s be real—you’re projecting. The second someone holds up a mirror, you crumble into a defensive tirade.
The Shadowmeld + Flight Form Comparison
Yes, it has a cooldown. Yes, it can fail. But your entire defense boils down to “Well, mine is slightly less foolproof, so it’s fine.” That’s not the dunk you think it is. Exploiting any advantage to escape PvP is fundamentally the same issue, whether it’s Shadowmeld or the Follower Dungeon trick. Don’t dish out heat if you can’t take it when the same logic is applied to you.
Self-Righteousness & WPvP Etiquette
You claim to care about new and casual players, but let’s not pretend your goal here is altruistic. WPvP is inherently chaotic, and while it’s fair to want exploits fixed, your repeated attempts to position yourself as some kind of moral arbiter just undermine your credibility. If you’re truly about fairness, why spend so much time taking personal shots at others? That’s not advocacy—it’s ego-driven posturing.
The Projection Olympics
You accuse others of thinking they’re kings and queens of the shard while simultaneously writing paragraphs about how you ‘folded’ people and reminiscing about your 15-year WPvP legacy. Maybe take a moment to reflect on who’s truly taking themselves too seriously here.
The Alby Obsession
It’s telling that even while you claim to focus on the exploit, you end your post with, ‘If I see an opportunity to bash this Alby dude, I will do it regardless.’ Thanks for confirming what we all suspected—this isn’t about fixing anything. It’s about nursing grudges and stoking drama.
Here’s the reality: nobody here is fooled by your half-hearted attempts to play the voice of reason. You’re too busy deflecting, contradicting yourself, and dragging personal vendettas into every conversation. If you want to argue for fixing the system, do it without the unnecessary theatrics. Until then, spare us the lectures on fairness—you’re just muddying the waters.
Good luck out there, champ. Hopefully, one day you’ll find that elusive ‘pvp etiquette’ you’re so fond of preaching about.
Ha! Please, spare me the insult of such rookie numbers—try 1k+! Still, I bet that pales in comparison to your shadowmeld + flight form cheese. Looks like I’ve got some catching up to do!
Hope you find the courage to turn WM on again one day, until then this is for you.
You expect me to not get defensive when the person infront of me is lying ?
Dude, Shadowmeld is meant to be used to drop combat by design, going into Follower Dungeon to not die at a click of a button with no Deserter or cooldown is messed up and you cant compare the two at all.
No its not the same. Only a smoothie would think that.
Learn what EGO means, its a fundamental part of a persons personalities, you expect literal monks to make these threads ? why does it even matter who says it, as long as its objectively true- and it is objectively true.
No i dont have any other gains, i simply like the game , i see that its going to dookie and i comment about it. Dont like it ? well kick rocks.
It is ego driven, because I hete your little mobster mentality, you and your whole guild going on your little witch hunts against people ingame and out of it, trying to censor and cover up your shameful tactics and doings.
When you generate AI texts make sure they make sense. I didnt accuse people of being queens/kings , they accused me of thinking this about myself - and i truly dont.
The only reason i share about my 15 year “legacy” as you put it is to tell you that im not a kid , i dont find fun in bullying people anymore. I thought that was a cool concept when i was a child. Thats the only thing i communicated, unless you think im flexing with twinking at 39 lvl ?
You also didnt come here to have a civil discussion but to spam your AI generated nonsense as always, deflecting, gaslighting and straight up lying, mobbing me with your entire limp guild in every thread about your precious little shard in Argent Down.
I honestly cant wait until you guys get outside and touch some grass and see how lame your whole scharade is.
Dude you cheese in every aspect, from coming at people fully buffed in casual pvp to drinking potions and healthstones, to abusing world buffs, gliders ,nitro boots and so on.
Please before you try to call someone out on being cheese make sure you’re not the first one to start with the cheese nonsense because in the case with me- you were doing it.
I even logged horde to invite you into a fair duel and you cheesed again.
So stop trying to give me morals when you clearly got none.
Forget about it. I already got an alt where i play Warmode ON on a different shard
Funny how you call me sweaty but I dont have a world pvp guild, i walk with no buffs, consumables and i just casually woop bums (yours included) while you gotta press all these extra keys for consumables and gliders and nitro boots and then open a menu while you’re in turtle to que for Follower Dungeons.
Sad situation.
Heard someone say that anger ages you, and you really desperately need to grow up a lil.
So stay angry, boii
Yeah, its true i quit the shard
Its dead 90% of the time and the other 10% is a bunch of babies who cant accept defeat and have to resort to cheating.
https:// www.youtube .com/watch?v=rn3wYra6Ymg
I mean, maybe we’re both wining. Feels like it to me.
Be the Elsa (https: //www. youtube .com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU) of your dead shard. Ill be a casual player in a casual setting.
Everyone is happy.
Ah, Alessthra, the irony of calling out ‘AI-generated nonsense’ while writing essays that read like patch notes for your ego. If you spent as much time improving your arguments as you do projecting, you might actually convince someone. But hey, enjoy your grassless existence on the shard.
Dude youre yet to experience a thought.
Let alone an argument.
Ill leave it at that.
G cant even pronounce words in the worlds easiest language.
Make more youtube vids pls
From the most cowardly player ever, you either use the terrain where you can’t be reached, or you do fight and follower away when you get low, as soon as the fight is on equal footing, you use your rocket boots and glider kit and flee for the hills. You wouldn’t know a fair and honourable fight if it hit you in the face.
Probably explains why you reply to yourself from all your different chars, and even like your own posts, nobody in real life would be sad enough to do that, would they?
I agree, that’s all this is really about. Druids and rogues are just upset that they are now being played at their own game and are throwing a little baby temper tantrum.