Ban ALL addons

Remove support for addons in Classic blizzard, without DBM etc the encounters would be more fun tbh.

No insta invites from enchanters that semi bot in towns
Skill based pvp and an actual need to learn your class instead of having literal addons telling you how to do your rotation etc

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It would be a better game, for sure. Some addons would be considered cheats in different games, no doubt. But they should improve UI before that. Like namesplate with dots for dot class. Some visuals for the trigged effect, etc.

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I kinda agree with you. DBM should definitely be banned. Also all these auto invite and other bot softwares like you mention.

But if I dont have a dot timer or even a debuff indicator then I don’t think I would enjoy the game very much.

I get the feeling that you complain about everything that requires a minimal amount of skill to do.

Yeah no I like the maps not being completely obscured, a single inventory space, being able to add in more action bars and move them around the appropriate spots so I can keep track of them more easily.

Just ban the actually harmful addons if you need to for tryhards.
But I don’t see why leatrix maps has to be banned or bagnon, or bartender.

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WoW is the only online game I know that allows and even encourages 3rd party software, which is alarming. Every single addon is either good for the game or bad and therefore should be either implemented into the game as an option or banned.

Addons allow people to circumvent the original game design (dungeon finder addons, questie) and to do other activities that engender the most toxic behavior (DPS meter, warcraft logs).

By far the worst culprit is DBM. Not only does it give blatant advantage and is an outright cheat, but also is so common that Blizzard assume the players would be using it while designing the game, therefore making raids harder, which also makes the game worse for those who do not use it.

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yeah I totally agree with this tho.

I played this game new world for quite some time, and while that game is absolute trash. It was interesting to see how having no damage meters or logs affected the pve scene. It is probably the only positive thing about that game.

Did it mean there was way more noobs and bad players in bad builds and bad rotations? Yep! Did it make it so it was impossible to do pve? Not at all. And even speed running is a big thing in that game despite there not being any dmg meters or logs or even combat logs of any kind.

Wonder what wow would look like without addons.

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It would look like heaven.

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then blizz will lose over half its players… next time remember not all players use addons for bad reasons.

i can’t play classic without an addon to make the map smaller and transparent. full screen map was nice when the game started but it is too much to leave it as it is for me.

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Maybe the next seasonal thing can be season of no addons.

Blizz is experimenting and addons is probably the most widely discussed hot topic of all time in this game.

I think there’s a whooole lot of ppl out there who would want to see a wow with no addons

But yea I agree with you. I like my bagnon, my questie, my bartender. But I could easily live without it if it meant DBM going away as well.

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You can play without addons perfectly fine if you want to!
But why you think that everyone must play with no addons too, only because you think it is right thing? Excuse me, but who was you?, because i do not remember but seems that you are so important, that you can decide instead of us how we should play.
Add-ons are additions to the game, and this is great that we have it!
The developers made basic UI as minimal, that mean that you need minimum that info to can play it in normal way.
Then they have given freedom to ADD to it, if you (player) feel like it is not enough to play game comfortably. I hope you understand that.
Because of minimalistic attitude of game, outside of spamming error notifications, it is not enough for most ppl to be comfortable with. Giving some examples:

  • AH function just fine, but having an simple Auctinator addon makes your experience much better, and much easier and faster, why i should not use it?
  • An dmg meter addon, ok, tell me how you will know how you preform, how much actually you provide to your raid, grp etc., how you will measure?
  • DBM or equivalent, well if you do not have that, you will be in need to add a additional
    clear tab to chat to separately can see what boss/system have said to can react, or put a timer etc., so is not actually a primitive type of addon functionality?
    There are many, its just examples. If those things does not exists via addons, then developers will have to ADD them and make UI maximalist with option to cut of unneeded stuff. Because players will demand it. Different people-different tastes, everyone must have freedom. If they have to remove addons, then must macros too, right, all that frustrates you can be done partly or fully with macros right?
    But then they have to add it as additional functionality.
    In the end what is difference? you can filter with addons everything that addons spam to you, or doing to you.
    What is the matter? You do not know for what you talking about.
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Its season of discovery and they already said they use it to try stuff.

So why not ban like idk dmg meters and logs for 1 phase and see if it deals at all with all the toxicity and gatekeeping in the community.

Who knows it might improve the pug experience idk :man_shrugging:

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I get you, and understand what you mean. But It wont work. The more you restrict something the more desirable it gets. It is MMO, there always will be competition and measurement, the game mechanics itself are based on calculations and possibilities.
Banning one instrument, will encourage another one to be created. The Logs, Dmg meters and gearscore counters have nothing to do with ppl attitude.
The reasons are: most ppl value their effort and do not want someone who do not, to ruin their experience.
Transcendence, most ppl who give effort to something early or latter have that.
No way to have enough amount grown up and intelligent community to overcome that.
It is what it is.

you never no if you never try, less players with maybe less toxicity can also be a win.

Would atleast open up more opportunitys to try and get new players that would never try the game if they hear how “hard” it is to get into a raid or what 10+ addons they need just to get into a raid sometimes…

I am sure there is ppl who can, or do play the game with no addons at all, i did it too.
Also there is ppl who prefer it to play with a lots of addons, and those who regardless of addons or not, just cannot play it proper way.
It is about which individual with what are comfortable.
It has nothing to do with toxicity. Just to remind you, all that 101 demandings are because of the “new players, who tried the game”

Addons are the #1 cause botting in WoW. Without addons making a bots would be infinitely harder than currently. I can’t go into deeper details, but anyone that do gamedev know it’s a good stop for cheater. Addons give to much information “for free”.

Sadly this will never happen. Once you give some power to your users, removing this 20 years after would create to much backslash. Can you imagine playing WoW without weakaura or a custom UI seriously ?

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Never seen anyone topping the dmg meter complain about it’s existance, never seen a pink or orange parser complain about wcl.
Of course trash players hate the fact that others can see they are trash. Such is life.
Auction house is literally broken and not fit for purpose without auctionator. Questie just means you don’t have to tab to wowhead every time you get an unclear or unfamiliar quest. Wow UI is worst of any RPG I’ve seen since probably early 90s, and the devs relied on players fixing it for them ever since 2004.
Raiding without DBM is literally relying on rng that any of the less focused half of your raid don’t get any important mechanic on them. Unlike anyone itt I actually did Gaddon in early 2005 when barely anyone had big wigs. I literally had to have people count themselves down on ventrillo like school kids to make sure they can hear their raid lead shout their name when they are bomb. One in 3 still blew up the raid. People still DPS on Mandokir gaze after all raid shouts and types at them. Having no dbm or wa or meters or logs would literally remove pugging from the game. You’d have to have guilds with trial and actually kick trials after a couple fails.
You know what, just do it, I wanna see the massive crapstorm.

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Yeah, I mean, addons like questie that help you do quests are bad, right? But going alt-tab to search online for the same info given by questie is ok? Or should those websites also be banned?
And yeah, addons that help you find groups are bad too, yeah? You should be forced to look through the absolute spam of chat to find group for the activity you’re looking for, that is the way to play the game!

Yeah your post is ridiculous

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I don’t use weakauras and it doesn’t prevent me from clearing all the content.
That doesn’t mean I think everyone should be forced not to use it.

The entitlement some people show is staggering

Less players when you are a company designed around making money is not a win from a business stand point.

Pretty sure the people who want no addons at all are the minority.