Hey. What you do is up to you. I can also open the door at the supermarket for an elderly lady while some other kook can just walk past her and slam the door in her face.
I can only control my actions and mine alone.
Not sure with what powers you are planning to influence others for them to write postings “just the way you like it”.
That is some pretty epic Hyperbole.
What kind of comparison is that to a Mythic+ group on a game rofl.
The previous author is complaining that people are “not making proper m+ postings”. Well. I am asking then. How can you force some random guy on the internet to follow some “imaginary m+ group posting template…which you came up with”. If I will whisper him and tell him to change that or fix that or what ever.
At best he can /ignore me. At worst, he will simply ask. “Who the hell are you? You are not my boss!”…and he will be right. He has no reason to listen to me.
Edit:
A simple one. My next sentence already explained it. “I can only affect my own actions”. But aight…lets try this angle.
I just wrote “LFM +15 FH” obviosly I didn’t include any rio requirements and etc. So it doesn’t meet your “standards”. Ok. What will you do now? Will you use some black mind controlling vodoo-magic to control my mind and change my M+ posting?
By all means…go ahead. I want to see how will you FORCE me to adapt your m+ posting template. 
It really doesn’t explain it, it’s a terrible comparison, but nice try.
You are just dodging the question now. But sure. You can play this “merry-go-around” if you wish.^^
The benefit of making your own group.
You can underperform and still time a key.
Because if the players stick with the leader regardless of performance he wins.
Others might have left after a few trash packs and the 1st boss.
Its been said before, if you dont like how people use rio to invite you or not, make your own group. The guy you described understands that perfectly fine.
This has been discussed.
Everyone has their own right to run / start their group under their terms and conditions.
If they want to write: 3k rio 12/12 mythic nyalotha bosses / be experienced in the header they can.
If they require 2k rio score for a 16 key, they can.
I am lost what your point is with these replies.
None of the things you have issues with is caused by rio.
Back when group finder was added, rio wasnt even around and people were making ‘‘weird’’ demands for their groups or had other requirements than were actually needed for said content.
Already tried explaining that to him. Apparently he has the idea that he can “influence” others free will. Haha.
Ive touched on that multiple times and he still keeps on going.
Think this was my final attempt to get the point accross.
All problems being described are caused by the poster himself and not by rio.
And that goes for everyone having issues with rio, its a problem they did create and not the tool.
Yes sure. Some are carried. But on average looking at 12 dungeons, someone with full 15’s is not. Obviously there are no guarentees. There are also people carried to 12/12 mythic raiding. That doesnt mean on average a 12/12 mythic is boosted.
Rio ADDS to the problem. It ADDS to toxic attitude, a way of belittling others. A carried guy with high rio gets accepted into a high key because ofcourse, his rio is high from being carried, thus possibly failing the key because he’s not the great, which is the point I’m trying to make about Rio, and how toxic Rio makes people. But ofcourse you guys love Rio so you wouldn’t agree.
Obviously you’re having a hard time understanding, you and your little mate.
Not dodging anything, you clearly don’t understand, especially with your bad comparison. But yeah, keep doing what you do on Rio and love it, I don’t really care lol
So we can agree to disagree, I stand by what i say about Rio, just like you stand by your words. /thread.
There isn’t much to misunderstand here. Rio is simply a datasheet. Numbers. A tool. Nothing else. There are people who use it for good or bad. Thats sure.
But any tool can be used and abused. Both real life and in-game. The most classical real life example:
A hammer I will dare say. Every Household has it in their tool box and its a valuable yet simple and basic tool. Yet it can be used a dangerous weapon as well(a good swing to the head can cause serious brain damage and possibly death) . And if somebody uses that to harm people. Then is the hammer “evil” or is the person wielding it? Should we ban hammers from every hardware store since its a “dangerous weapon”?
Silly…
But so is this rio debate.
Are the rio numbers “evil and toxic” or the people who interpret them?
This is nonsense. Your logic is flawed simply because you think tools somehow magically affect people attitude. If someone is toxic, he is toxic regardless of existance of rio.
rio isnt the tool that makes people behave toxic.
Its the weight certain people give towards their rio score and how to treat others because of said score.
Which is wrong from the people that feel elitist or better because of some ‘‘numbers’’ about a game you play for enjoyment. And thats an issue and i agree on that part. But that cant be blamed on rio because thats not the purpose of said tool.
i explained to you before, how i use rio and most people in here seem to use it the same way.
We want to know if you have experience in the dungeon we are about to run no matter what key level, but i would like to bring players with similar experience so i can assure myself on a basic level they know the mechanics and their class.
For the boosted player you describe, thats more like a 1 trick pony.
Gets boosted → tries to join groups with his boosted score → doesnt deal with mechanics or play his class properly → group figures it out and after that, he wont be taken again by those people.
Thats not us, having a hard time understanding anything.
You are literally complaining not being taken towards keys you have run timed on 16 as a dps, where as there are tons of people applying for the same role with more experience or higher score.
And i think, everyone in this topic gets declined every now and again. So its not a ‘‘you’’ only problem. And i also think we all find that annoying from time to time.
You might do a better job than the 3k scored rogue that also applied and got invited.
But because you only ran 4-5 dungeons timed on 16 your score is like what? 900ish. Which gives off the vibe: omg boosted player.
I would always go with the more experienced player in that case.
People need to understand that it is merely a tool to find the right people for your group.
And there is also personal preference / personal choices.
So even tho you think you are the right pick, doesnt mean i have to agree.
But here you are, because you did a FH 16 in time, you are now entitled to be invited by every group that needs a dps and runs a FH 16? (thats what you said earlier anyway)
Banning rio isnt the answer.
Armory shows the same data except without the scoring system rio uses.
So if rio gets banned, someone will write an addon that shows mythic+ dungeons completed in time grabbed from the armory and show that ingame.
So in a few months, this forum will be filled with:
OMG armory is toxic remove it please.
And you are just asuming everyone with a rio score is a bad player, causing failed keys. Imagine how many failed keys happens with random invites. How many toxicity would that add? I assume more than we have with rio now. So rio is actually preventing toxicity.
Again, as I’ve told you several times before… Getting declined from a dungeon I have great and long experience with because my Rio is low as I haven’t done some dungeons I dislike, yet I’ve easily completed the one that they want to do, but still get declined and the excuse is “Low Rio”, so please, this is what I’m getting at, this is why Rio is crap, what do you not understand. I’m tired of this discussion.
My god I never once said that.
/Thread.
I forgot to add
“/Thread”
Ok. Rio removed
Checks armory
Oh sry. The armory shows that you haven’t done KR or ML yet. I got another rogue who has done everything on a +16.
So…
#RemoveArmoryItsToxic! ?
My god you still don’t get it.
If they haven’t done it, yes, by all means find the player that has.
If they’ve completed a 15+ not but a 16+, BIG difference between not doing the dungeon and doing a level lower keystone.
Yet another crap comparison.
Whats there not to get. Give me 1 reason why I should take 1 guy who has done 1x FH, maybe a Yard and Shrine over a guy who has done everything?
Even if i am looking for FH runner and ML experience =/= FH experience sure. For me it shows that the guy is versatile-experienced and puts more effort.
So yeah. Just answer this question and perhaps me and some other posters will understand your reasoning.
Why take a guy who has done the bare minimum over somebody who has done everything?
You mentioned before that you dont like dungeon X. Fine. But remember, as a party leader/key holder, It doesn’t matter to me what you like or dislike. If you want to handicap yourself like that. You are free to do so.