And this will be common place if the “anti-rio” crowd gets its way. 
Well to me it seems [rio] is just a new form of elitism you can say what you want but it’s just too similiar. You could also just say that you don’t want to play with new players who still have to get used to the game.
All it shows is some Number but I agree it shouldn’t be accessable automatically information about those who don’t even use this Addon. The number isn’t a personal number you could also just been in a bad team everytime too.
That’s why I’m not using it. No need for it and it’s only a number without any real meaning to me.
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I think people often forget gear score and I lvl was created by the community and eventually Incorporated into the game by blizz…
Very likely a Rio score like system could make its way into the game in the future.
But I agree with the sentiments posted why should a third party score dictate whether you get into an m+, I haven’t done loads having missed most of bfa but I’ve seen players with huge scores be absolutely terrible in m+. Getting carried by your friends and Guildies is enough to cause a mid representation in the system I suppose…
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If you want to opt out of the scoring system I would follow Sinaaki’s advice in the link she gave.
You won’t become more desirable to take by opting out. You will appear as having no score.
I would not recommend taking Siffrah’s advice, lots of things will no longer work for you character, like simming etc.
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I believe they are incorporating a similar rio type system into SL.
I never said I would ban it, I just said that players shouldn’t need to be logging into their account or the Raider IO site to stop the data being used.
Sure it may be easier but even with the account check there is absolutely no guarantee of a smooth run, even people on these forums have said they’d leave runs with even the most minor issues or mistakes in a run.
It is an add-on relied on by players regardless of how you try and dress it up, most content that isn’t leveling has players relying heavily upon add-ons. It’s actually rather pathetic that players can’t seem to play without them.
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Its still the best indication whether or not a person is good for the job or not we have. That people tend to be beep beep in general is a different matter.
Because of addons we have encounters like we do now. Without addons we would have encounters like classic (aka brain afk)
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Best is highly subjective, especially when you consider people being boosted regularly causing for their scores to not reflect their ability. Then you have those high scores players who leave as soon as another player does so much as cough at the wrong time.
Not necessarily true, Blizzard could have always designed different/harder encounters without add-ons in mind. If your mindset is that you require them because they show timers for abilities and scream at you to move them maybe that says more about you and your ability as a player rather than Blizzard’s Devs and their choices on how they create raids/dungeons.
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Blizzard own PVE ranking system or remove RIO please.
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You can hide and make your score private in the site.
What you said gets covered by the “. That people tend to be beep beep in general is a different matter.” part.
Still wouldnt be as complex as they are now. Current encounters are a direct answer to our addons.
Big words comming from you. Just looking at Archimonde mythic for instance i wish you the best of luck having him done without the range radar function which blizzard removed after WoD for inside raids/dungeons because they didnt want to create such an encounter anymore again since doing archi mythic without the radar was next to impossible or would require an absolute absurdum of pulls.
But yes would the encounter be as braindead as vanilla/classic? No. That would be a feat in itself. Would they be as they are now? No they wouldnt, because WA and similar addons have pretty much become a necessity for myhitc. We are not talking about lfr/normal/hc here where anybody while being half afk can kill the bosses.
This looks like bad positioning when they get 1shot as soon as they come tbf
You don’t know that. That’s just an assumption based on what you see both today and in previous expansions.
No, just little words. This is a difference of opinion and not a fight. 
I never played WoD, however my point still stands.
Exactly, people are relying on addons and that is my point. There shouldn’t be a need for anything past having the base game and I doubt the original release of WoW anticipated addons would be as required as they are today.
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i think blizz will implement RIO in core WoW structure sooner or later.
Majority of players have this installed (or at least registered their character in there) and it serves 2 purposes:
-easy way to check experience for PUG runs
-a competitive metric for high end pushers. Game itself supports achievements up to level 15, anything beyond that isn’t really recognized (except highest timed key on armory). RIO gauges this well and provides exponential score increase as you go up with key levels. You need 10 mythic levels on all dng’s to earn your first 1000 points, but going from 4000 to 5000 will require improving them by one, maybe two in some. It’s really hard to improve that high up though and rio score reflects that well.
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Item level has always been in WoW, it’s a value used to calculate all the stats of equipment as well as vendor value fyi.
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i dont understand the purpose of this. if you dont have a score people wont invite you at all cause theyll assume the worst. why do you want this so badly?
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I did say it was not ideal but it was an option i am sorry for trying to help i just will not bother in future .
Didnt say that to offend you (and it wasnt againts you at all , but rio), i just asked a question.
Blizzard shows your run, third party websites just summarize info showed in armory. Also “your” account and therefore “your” score belong to Blizzard, they are free to show their property the way they want.
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Pugs will always find a way to determine whether or not you’re wasting their only 2 hours of playtime per day. Some people straight up look at your armory page on the official site and scroll down to your completed M+ data.
The downside of this “classic” method is that pugs get harsher. Many would decline you just because they think your talents are wrong or your corruptions aren’t up to scratch. Rio is very tame in comparison. You also can’t pretend the thousands of people that use it wisely don’t exist. For instance, when I’m making a party for a +4, I don’t take the people with a high score - because I know they’re most likely there to be jerks and show off. It works both ways.
Nothing stops me from taking your 250 score toon to a party for a dungeon that’s relevant to you. But if you’re applying for a +10 Sethraliss with ilvl 435 and invisible Rio score, my odds say that you’re probably there to get carried or troll.
It’s not personal, just smart time management on the party leader’s part.
If only everyone played nice and wasn’t so entitled and didn’t want to instantly jump over content into endgame, we wouldn’t need tools like this. But a stranger in wow simply cannot be trusted to respect others’ time.
My suggestion is to find a guild, or friends. Hand on heart I’ve never even looked at guildies’ scores when inviting them to M+ or raids. The only time I look at theirs is if they ask me to due to not having the addon themselves. Or to marvel at what they’ve done on their own after those few +8’s they did together with my casual self when they were still starting out.
Guilds, communities and friends are the answer - they were the answer to Gearscore in WotLK, and they’re the answer to Raiderio now. The only thing guildies will ever ask is that you’re not like, ilvl 410 for a mythic Nya raid or something. 
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