I think the reason is that at lower keys, there is much more room for error. You can ignore mechanics in a +5 that will kill you in a +10 or higher (though you can still ignore plenty of mechanics in a +10). Higher keys require better knowledge of the mechanics, boss abilities, trash abilities, positioning, etc.
But why do i have to do that?I didn’t have to do it in legion i didn’t have to waste time doing dungeons there is 150% no doubt i can do them. Who is to say i don’t need to do 11 then and then 13 that’s 3 dungeons wasting time which is precious to each and every single one of us and you can’t even know what’s enough for people that are dumb.
The other solution would be blizzard giving us a way to use what key we want but until then RIO the addon is the thing that can change and stop being a tool for denyal and into a tool for accepentance of people of the same level.
Well Stephan, good luck. Seems my advice on how you could probably get done with your score in a few days is completely ignored.
Raiderio will go nowhere, that’s what I am sure of. I guess you can keep feeling sorry for yourself because of that. Maybe one day you get lucky enough to be invited!
Ah the sarcasm if you at least read that i don’t have time to waste doing possible upwards of 10 dungeons until my score get’s to a level where a sheep dungeon leader thinks i’m not gonna brick his key. But Rio could just give me the score i’m suppose to have and not just me to all the people by using a better algorithm.
You know i actually try to provide a solution to improve this tool everoyne is using and majority are missusing. I feel the full effect of the bad usage of the tool, maybe if you had less time to play you would understand why you wouldn’t want it to waste because of some arbitrary 3rd party addon that shouldn’t have a say why you get into a group.
Well. Raider io has many flaws and easy to… “miss-interpret” but that’s how pug world works. M+s were always meant to be pre-mades pretty much. I also get annoyed to be declined on my mage or DK cause I am not a rogue or pwarrior on them. But honestly…what else is there to do?
Puging is like 1 big cruel poker game. You either sit down and play the game or you leave the table. Getting up and shouting “this is not fair!” will not help in anyway to get faster in the group. The pug world sets the “unofficial rules” so to speak. You can either accept them, make your own rules(aka, make your own group) or guilds,friends,communities. Shouting at forums to make pugging more “fair” is the same as wishing to a falling star to make “humanity better”. I think we can both agree on what will be the result in that scenario.
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“Give me a higher score because I know I’m good”.
instead of
“Here’s a score because you have done those dungeons on X level”.
yea, great suggestion 
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Don’t have time? Fine. But don’t expect leaders who actually take their time to pick you then.
The most ironic thing is if OP actually does create his own +3 group this is what happens:
He heroically does not look at RIO scores, gets a few people that overgear +3s by 100 ILVL and still die by being eaten by Rezan. The group disbands after the 1st wipe with nobody saying a word
oh, how lovely the pug world is
you’d be more than welcome in SoD - its a great little community, so please feel free to join us 
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You know, there is actually one small issue I have with how RIO is perceived by players, though it’s the opposite of what other people criticize about it:
I’d like to get a bit into bear-tanking again, but I have almost no recent tanking experience (not since WoD). Now if I applied as a tank to a +5 or even +10 PUG, they’d see my score (which is almost entirely from playing moonkin and a bit of healing) and expect that I am an experienced tank, which I am not. This isn’t RIO’s fault, though, because it does display role icons and the site breaks down runs by role also.
But this is probably an individual “me” problem. Friends don’t help there since they don’t really want to run low keys anymore.
People who hate on raider io are the same people you see auto attacking bosses in LFR.
You cant change my mind.
How about here’s the score you actually deserve instead of we just don’t want to show the score you actually deserve. We at rio are just not showing it unless you re-do it again and those idiots using the application don’t understand that so they will decline you cause we are dumb and don’t want the tool to be an improvement for the community.
I guess i got my cutting edges by standing in fire. People like you that can’t understand that RIO isn’t the best thing since slice bread and it’s actually garbage for alot of people are legit mouth breathers.
Unfortunately. Raider is the “best thing” available. Many anti-raider’s fail to realize that if you ban raider io. People won’t suddenly start inviting people for “pretty eyes and cause they asked nicely”. It won’t be rainbows and unicorns simply cause raider io will be gone. Either a new judgment system will be in place or the m+ pug scene will collapse. Nobody in their right minds will invite any unknown random stranger to their keys without even shred of some form of proof of previous experience.
Uff i didn’t suggest to ban RIO like at all i even said the same thing as you. But they could do much on improving what the score actually represents and how it’s calculated they could add alot more thoughts into calculating it and then conveying a score that is not hard to understand. They can make it so when they show 1 k it means they are capable of doing all dungeons at 10 . They should do alot of stuff which i wrote above if you care for my opinion on my improvements but as a tldr, keep scores from prior seasons(no reason to not read above),give guessing scores on the dungeons the person has not completed base on the difficulty of the dungeon(for ex kr will get quite a high difficulty coeficient) and how many other dungeons the guy had did,but give scores don’t give a 0 for no reason.
Based on what?
Uhm. Raider io does show your previous season score if its higher than your current season.
I still see people with 1.3k(1.9k S2) scores appear on my signup windows?
Based on what you did? Like im getting a 0 score on dungeons i didn’t do this season but i should be getting at least 100 for them?Because they have the info i did them in other seasons and i did other dungeons at higher or same level. You don’t give an 100 score but you can give close to it,it’s called educated guess based on information and it’s what this tool is suppose to help pugs with but they ain’t doing that and are using it wrongfull then the app can do the educated guess by simple formulas.
Other season? They show previous season scores.
Other expansion? Quite irrelevant.
But why differentiate? It’s the same score that’s information conveyed wrong ,since RIO keep your score rom week to week where 3 afixes are rotating completly sometimes there is no reason not to keep it from season to season it’s an even smaller difference.
Showing that he did something else in other season ,people ignore that show it as a single score and people won’t use the wrong information.
And this is where you are wrong.
The dungeon affixes, hell even their difficulty scales up with each season.
+10 on S2 is NOT exactly the same on S3. If I remember correctly. The S2 +10, was S3+6,+7 or something.
I didn’t say other expansion,that’s irrelevant but i got rejecetd cause my current season score is to low like why? Because it doesn’t show it as my score it just says hey he has lower score now which is false it’s the same score in reality 1 afix changed that won’t change my performance. Or if that’s the case then keep a tag on score on each week for each affix combination. You cannot treat weekly affixes different than seasons. This is the case of bad thinking.