First of all, FR does not make sense to exist in other specs other than guardian. I don’t care that “it’s a conduit that makes it too strong”. It’s simply completely senseless to exist for other specs, when such specs have their own defensives and heals.
Secondly, Bear Form effect should be severly reduced in non-Guardian specs as well when it comes to armour.
If somehow it makes sense to have both in the current state, every other heal and defensive needs to be nerfed. It’s absurd.
Big true, whenever Rdruid is in the meta, it’s the most frustrating 
to catch a druid and then have him sit bearform until he can get away, while taking nearly no dmg for the most part. (It was especially bad during Legion)
Cool lets remove all the shared abilities for shadow priest too then like leap of faith/ desperate prayer/ power word shield haha so you want blizzard to do pruning again when they just finally brought spells back into the game…
Frenzy regen has been around with feral and resto since forever its been changed a lot the way it works over time from consuming rage to heal to healing 50% of the damage you took in the last 6 seconds current regen is only good because of versatility bonus all dps and healers get now you should really look at the main problem instead of focusing at % based heals if it only did the fixed 32% of your hp back on a 33 second cooldown the spell would be fine but you have it increased by 42% from versatility and then all necrolords increase on top of this by 33% but this is a problem for all classes not just druid.
This is true, unlike everything in OP
DPS Druids still have Barskin, Regrowth, Rejuvenation and Ironfur baseline
Then you have access to Swift Mend and Wild Growth, and Vortex
or
Frenzied Regen and Incap Roar ON TOP of that.
So how does that compare to Leap of Faith or Desperate Prayer, or 3K absorption shields which get broken with a single attack? Shadow Priest has 1 active heal, which hits back and takes off a % of your HP, and one long CD passive heal which only gets benefit if the Priest is able to freecast, and doesn’t get the dots dispelled. Druid has access to at least 4 different heals and perma wall. The priest abilities you’ve mentioned would be the equal to Regrowth, Rejuv, Wild Charge/Dash which exist accross the specs
Following druid’s logic, I should have accesss not only to Leap/DP, but also penance, pain suppression, chastice and barrier.
FR is part of Guardian Druid. So much, that in order to get it, you have it accessible through a talent. It’s not baseline. Removing that talent, or remving it from the talent is not pruning. If that talent needs to exist, it should exist in cost of something else, like for example losing barskin, and regrowth. Currently, Druids have access to it all. You heal absurd amounts with Regrowths, and if you fail to properly use your defensives, or anything else, all it takes is switch to bear, press one button, and heal effortlessly to 100%. You don’t see the issue in this because you’re playing a druid.
? You don’t even need to spec anything for that, you get it for free.
Guess what, reju can’t even outheal auto attacks, so what?
What are we talking about?
What are you talking about here?
Shadow does already have access to benefits the heal specs have, by default. And greater fade is something you can choose as PvP talent.
So you even mention yourself that the skill is NOT for free and requires you to make a decision. Further, vortex is so much better than incap, which means druids have to take survivability vs better CC, it’s already a balanced choice by design.
You now want to remove def CDs for a healing CD? Go play druid and show me how you live any proper go without FR, just with barkskin 
10k Crit without dampening is absurd? Nice one.
How to fail? There is a wall, which is not even that good and barkskin is usable in stun anyway. A druid can’t even fail to pop defensives. Wanna talk about dispersion at this point?
Oh and FR is not healing you to 100% and if it does, it means you barely did any damage anyway.
i like frenzy, mindgames goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I never thought I’d have a cancelaura macro for a CD which is supposed to save my azz 
Just did a skirm on my hunter. Druid had 33K HP. Frenzied healed 35.9K.
You were saying?
Balance and feral druids are healing more than their damage, or healing equal amounts to the damage they’ve done.
guy probably played heart of the wild to have 2 charges of frenzy regen and it heals more with heart of the wild also thats a 5 min cd and its a talent that you have to sacrifice over bash aka stun
Regen has 1 use on that pic.
Anyways, LMAO, Druids and Retris on this forum act so alike it’s funny
on my boomy frenzy heals for atleast 70% of my hp. It has some conduits, pvp talent(which gets removed in 9.1) so it heals really much. I think its okay though that boomy isnt really killable without mindgames because they dont do more dmg freecasting anyway, people can ignore boomies anyway.
the conduit is pretty op ngl but the meta is super bursty. Dont think boomies are op at all.
I hate playing against jungle as caster when hunter removes all dots all the time and feral is almost unkillable even with mindgames haha
Yes, because the conduit is not shown as cast on details, which is the reason why you didn’t show how many ticks it was.
FR ticks 4 times, with 6k ticks it would have been 24k only.
Nice try tho. Next time you want to troll harder, get a druid who is using swarm, the 20% conduit and strength of the wild
That FR has 6 ticks.
It’s still one cast. I don’t care whatever bs you pull out to justify it. It’s still broken and OP
We should return a bit of classic, like druid’s can only heal in caster form.
FR has 4 ticks, it has 6 either because it was really with a 5 min cd or it was with conduit and the druid was full hp after 6th tick. Idk how you set up your details.
My details is working with its own setup. Haven’t changed a thing.
Here’s full details:
You can make a druid and use FR, you will see it’s 4 ticks.
How did swiftmend heal for 0? 
Buff swiftmend?
I don’t need to make a druid to determine FR, and Bear Form are OP and FR should not exist in DPS specs, not even as talent choices.