This troll again
I just set a trap to show anyone that warriors always cry. No disappointment as you can see because you are all annoying cry babies! 
Maybe it wasnt you but there was a warrior main on his paladin who said ww was already broken last season. But warrior was far ahead based on the statistic. If ww was broken how did you call warrior?
I feel the pain too, Iāve been 2K1 S2 and 2K S3 BFA and to tell it began to be very hard to push above that for many reason :
- DH : Donāt hope to land a aimed shot, you will never land it. Even worst with rapid fire.
- DK : my aimed shot( 2second cast time) only deal 17 K DMG in S3 , While my arcane shot ( instant magical dmg so pierce armor) deal 23 k dmg.
Also in S2/S3 Unholy was everywhere, and could interrumpt at 90% all of your aimed shot and you canāt kite him ; you are oblige to suffer his free-casting on you. Hey you put down to 30% ? Dat DMG for a MM hunter ! Death strike and see him now at 70% hp ! - Rogue : Everytime you try a aimed shot or when you burst with rapid fire, kidney instant and your burst is gone and you dealt 0 dmg.
- Arm : Try to kite your live , run, CC war and even free cast on him while heās still running arm warrior will still beat you in dmg : Charge + mortal strike and you can AFK the MM hunter will die on time.
- Mage : all of your aimed shot gone into the shield. But mostly you can AFK since he donāt want you he just spam sheep on you when you aim shot / sniper shot / RF.
- WW monk : Never got issue with that , ToD = feignt death, spam root and disengagement + racial worgen and you got teh same dmg than the monk. never been a issue.
*Shaman : Hey iāve got a shield ! Hey iāve got mail ! Hey see your aimed shot at 14k dmg blocked when iām healer/ dps when your aimed shot should deal 45 k dmg ! - Paladin Holy : Hey same than shaman but Iām plate ! AImed shot to 10K damage blocked with shield ! AH noob MM hunter he deal 0 damage L2P noob ! ( true story btw).
- Paladin Ret : if 2 templar verdict hit you , you are dead.
- Druid heal : Spam cyclone on you, then /Dance in front of you in bear stance.
- Warlock Destruction : ok here i gonna admit MM > destruction. You just have to spam Rapid fire behind pillar and hidding from warlock. Only Rapid fire as dmg and hiding and you canāt loose
- Warlock Demonology : Spend your time CC when his pet burst destroy you. when you try to land Aim Shot you are already at 20% life .
- Warlock affliction : you are dead by dots since affliction dot you and hide from aimed shot.
- BM : Let the pet kill the MM hunter. After all pet are rezzable and the MM hunter canāt CC the Player since his pet is 56% of his dmg so the only way to survive 100% of his dmg is with Turtle.
- Survival : the damage you deal to him is his HPS . the only way to beat him is to hope to land 2 CC on the survival to kill him. If you have managed to survive you and your mate
- Priest : spam sniper shot + double tap rapid fire and itās a balanced match. Do PvE rotation into ShadowPriest and try to beat him in dmg.
That was my life in Arena at 2K1 CR in S2/S3 playing MM hunter / healer . Sad life.
I hope for Shadowland Marksmanship will be viable ^^
every specc should have 1 good specc for pvp and one for pve like it alway was
Arms warrior was pvp fury pvp
Classes like Mage,Warlock,Hunter are differnt. but sometimes classes should be bad too.
But the best way to Balance wow is like MoP,Wotlk give all Classes are bunch of Tools BIG DMG insane DMG and Big Healing done no scripted arena
Warrior is not bad, iād argue itās relatively balanced, but a balanced class in a game with a lot of op specs is still awful.
WW is like warrior on steroids because it does everything better than warrior. The only reason to bring a warrior is sharpen and Iād take abilities like incap or ring of piss over sharpen, any day.
Would take a range Stun that i can do twice as often over Legsweep.
Different classes do different things. Warri still has more CC than WW.
Why should some classes sometimes be bad too?
Most spells in the talent tree, should not be up to choice, they should all be baseline. Silencing shot, kill shot, chimaera 45 sec cd with heal and high dmg, OH AND some spell should not be on GCD. Double tap on GCD, can you imagine how stupid that looks, to use an ability that does nothing and wait 4 seconds before you can cast the next spell. itās crazy. BRING GCD BACK. GCD = SKILL
Oh and Aimed shot getting pushed back on taking damage is just absurd, itās just stupid whoever designed it. stupid
But Legsweep hits multiple targets unlike Stormbolt?
Thats kind of a 1Head take given the fact warriors couldnt even connect in 3s w/o it while you dont struggle at all with uptime.
And yeah, the current meta doesnt help war aswell. I can see warrior being somewhat comparable to ww in a melee meta but right now everything you face is mage lock, LS D or some other spellcleave bs. So no.
Aoe Stun on a Class with tons of mobility is waaaaaay better.
Not sure if my headache is caused by all the coronavirus spreading in EU or your cluelessness. 
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With the cost of double cd and only melee range. Any other lether class has multiple stuns with a lot less cd, even DH can stun more often.
Any other lether class also has good to insane mobility, but still more or better stuns! I think this argument lacks behind.
Well dont stand together ?
Also i dont know how many Legsweeps i have missed while i see Autoattacks and spells still landing.
And not only me. On streams too that many WW complain about that.
CBA to look through vids of #1 WWs how they think about the stun.
Spoiler: Not good.
Stroking a potato for 1 hour straight is a better time investment than arguing with you for 5 minutes.
Now go my son and live a happy life in delusional town, where all the WW stuff you complain about, which are clearly l2p issues btw, do affect every single WW, no matter their exp.
āWell donāt stand in Line of sight?ā āWell donāt stay within 20 yards?ā
Sighā¦
We donāt care about you.
World of Graphs is the most unreliable source for arena anyway.
But if it would make you argument stronger it would also be an unacceptable source, right? 
I can also assure you that noone cares about this crying warrior folk. Not even Blizzard as all of you are not getting tired to repeat it in every post. 
Plate/mail absolutely destroys MM damage. As a pure physical damage class, MM needs either skills to ignore/penetrate armor, or a flat increase in damage, which will melt cloth/leather.
Solo PvP as MMis terrible, literally 0 survivability. You either open from afar and hope for crits, or donāt even bother.
MM is only good in BGs as far as PvP is concerned. Stay back and shoot, pray for healing if anything looks towards you tho))
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MM was good that one patch it Legion when they literally oneshoted people in the opener from concealment.
And thatās probably where the class has to stay. Extremely high burst. Thatās literally the only way MM can be part of the pvp meta.
But you know this entire thing is a sh*t show when 3 specks out of 24 retain 30% of the player population over 2.2 , and 2.2 isnāt particularly hard to get.
But 8.3ās Corrupted gear mechanic makes any balance or change attempts irrelevant.
It feels worse than a pre-patch.