BFA - Was is really that bad? (Spoiler: Yes, but...)

For you yes for me no.

You seem to be and you seem to only like your information i suggest having a hot coco.

You dispute it has an impact on MY view of the quality of BFA when I explicitly said that I thought the rest of it was terrible except for a couple of modes of content? Huh? Can you be more concise please?

I think you need to re read and calm down some , you seem to want to fight and make a mountain out of mole hill when all i did was offered some info from my side but you carry on being angry and trying to tell others that there view is wrong i bid you a nice evening.

I have a feeling only your view matters seems strange to me to debate with people like that.

I prefered the way gearing was back then and titan forging gear is now pretty much handed on a plate and i dont think that should be the case going up in item level did feel like an achievment and you could feel your character getting stronger i miss that aspect of it.

Also even though classes had been pruned classes did feel unique because they all has strengths and weaknesses and brought something different nowadays all classes kinda have the same kit and can do the same things.

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You are wrong. Don’t reply to me with inaccuracies and say I said things that I didn’t. You offered an OBJECTIVELY incorrect comment right here:

Why haven’t you deleted/edited this reply? It’s factually wrong.

Well yes, when I’m factually correct, and you’re factually incorrect, then only my view matters.

Like i said depends on country , you do understand it started at different times for countries yes when first cases reported and such thing’s

You want to argue, you are a very angry person whom i do not wish to converse with anymore as you seem to be very sure only you view is correct. Please calm down some and self relect to make life better for you i will add you to mute maybe that will help you settle down.

Just to warn you whatever you type next i will not see or respond to as angry people are not welcome in my life thank you.

Which country did Covid not strike in until November 2020?

I wish I had the luxury to work from home, but in my case i had to go to my workplace and deal with all kinds of precaution that made work even harder (i do not work in sanity)

Now you are strawmaning.
Fist you say Jan,which ,I do not remember being the case, than you up the period untill Nov…make up your mind.
I for was did not feel Covid had any part in liking Bfa.It was good on its own.

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Oh look, another one incapable of reading and is making up things I said which I didn’t. Here, I’ll hold your hand as well. I quoted what it was saying:

Shadowlands launch was late November 2020. I said the first cases were in January 2020, 10 months before it said COVID struck. It then said:

So, in what country did COVID not strike in until Shadowlands launch like it said it didn’t (late November 2020)?

I’m not sure how it’s strawmanning to ask something to substantiate its explicit points? It’s the very opposite of strawman. It said Covid didn’t strike until Shadowlands launch (factually incorrect) and then it said it depends on the country. Which country did it not strike until Shadowlands launch in?

This isn’t complicated.

I played Classic at the time so I have no idea how covid impacted the tail end of BfA. Lockdowns started happening around late March, early April 2020 iirc. It did affect Classic, I do know that :wink:

Thank you for your contribution.

It was ok.

Dungeons were fun. Azerite necklace powers were fun. For me, enhancement shaman was better than this.

Bad:

Azerite armor powers. Corruption (items). Horrific vision. Limitied time ah mount.

Not necessarily.
It was the bad bits of Legion (AP grind, rng gear, emissaries et al).
Without the Good bits of Legion, decent Lore - story and characters, Order Halls, artifacts (lorewise rather than systemically).

It wasn’t any worse than it is now.
You have to be an engineer to play the game.
It has terrible gameplay.
We go through ten portals to go somewhere (the simplest one)

good evening all,

here are my reasons

bfa had worst expansion start of every expansion: it started with the destruction of my favorite zones, night elf zones and tirisfal.
bfa had worst pvp of all expansions. pvp equip in some bfa seasons was 100 ilvl below pve equip in pvp and pve players made with pve equip 20 times heal/dps like pvp players in pvp and have 3 times hp than pvp players. other seasons have no pvp equip. 1 season had only pvp equip for only 0,5% top arena players. so bfa had worst pvp from all expansions.
bfa have the ugliest zones from all wow zones. nasmir and zuldazar are ugliest zones from wow.
bfa had the most boring grind from all wow expansions. 1 world quest in bfa gives 75 rep. in legion it was 150 at least, so there are more reputation grind in bfa than in all other expansions. also the bfa amulet grind, the essence grind, the essence upgrade grind, the cape upgrade grind were very boring in bfa.

so for me bfa is the worst ive ever seen in wow.

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I got a feeling things are starting to get a bit too sensitive here.
Didn’t mean to start any feuds against each other about things that has nothing to do with BFA.