That doesn’t share DR with other stuns. Why is this a thing?
Its a root. L2class.
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You can either : dispel it, freedom, shimmer, bladestorm, tiger lust, wraith walk, lock portal, mass dispel it, cloak it, shapeshift it, master call it, fade it, spiritwalker/ enhancement mvt speed thing. Hm did I get a way to break it for every spec*?
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Escape artist, disengage, vanish, AMS. And some others.
Ah right thank you.
Flesh craft … or just stand still. Unmmmmm. But he’s right. Theres no way to avoid it seems.
Of all things to complain about, Hunters?
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Pala complaining about hunters oof
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Drae druid got buffed how is it?
Quite hard to tell after 1 day, seems okay in double caster so far though (haven’t tested it myself)
Oh thought u insta test it cause its kinda ur main atm right
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And yet since it doesn’t break on damage, it’s effectively a stun against anything that doesn’t get to do much while in it.
And people could’ve stunned, interrupted, lined, CC’d otherwise, against Convoke. Why’d they nerf that?
Considering the absurd amount of damage they can pull off while having insanely high uptime on nigh unavoidable CC, why not exactly?
Imagine playing more than one character. Go make some more qq threads about DK’s supposedly underpowered state (lmao) and leave my qq thread alone.
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Afaik it can still re-bind you
- One is an ability damage the other is a movement imparing effect (read root). It has little in common.
- Convoke was too oppressive for beginners, while also scamming at higher ratings. That is why they nerf it. Is Binding shot oppressive at lower rating? Doubt so. Is it so good it can win by itself at higher ratings? No.
- You have minimum of 1.5 seconds(gcd) to “react” to binding shot not to get trap’d (because this is seriously the only way it gets value consistently) and not reacting to it doesn’t mean you lose in any way, whereas in 1.5 sec of free convoke you can die.
And a 8 seconds aoe stun would be op, however if you think Binding shot is as good as an 8 seconds AoE stun then… you might need to reconsider your position. Now if you want to contest, provide arguments that make you think it’s a stun as I did to prove you why convoke needed a retune while binding shot doesn’t. I’ll be waiting.
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You can 100-0 someone in a Binding Shot and they will have absolutely no counterplay if they have no ranged abilities and no way out (read below).
General rule is that roots break on damage. I got quite confused myself at the start of Shadowlands when I was just dying in a Binding Shot during BG honor grinding and have been disgusted by its current implementation ever since. I can imagine the confusion for the average player, especially since the ability has an incredibly vague animation nowadays.
100-0 someone during it. Melee can’t play the game during it. It has a 45 second cooldown, Convoke is a 2 minute cooldown and has far more counterplay options.
It’s effectively an 8 second AoE stun against most melee, because they do not get to use most of their skills during it and unlike other roots (except mages running a legendary that will be abused somewhere in the future of this expansion), it does not break on damage so it’s not like most CCs. The majority of abilities you named to counter it have a longer cooldown than Binding Shot, or aren’t an even remotely viable counter. Can’t say the same for counters to Convoke, which was just an extreme example.
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you mean like basically every other dps class? Since marksman hunter is the only dps spec in the game without any form of stun. So its a half-assed version instead. A ret kills me 100-0 in a hoj. A rogue kills me 100-0 in a kidney. But if hunter is able to 100-0 someone when they cant counter play, even if its a WORSE version - then its suddenly wrong?
At least a healer can dispell the root. My healer cant remove my kidney shot or storm bolt.
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HoJ is also magic and paladins don’t have an easy time setting up cross CC alone. Storm Bolt is 4 seconds. Kidney Shot is also broken due to rogue’s general kit.
Trap the healer as you stun (read: root with benefits) the dps. You just 1v2’d the game.
Not all Hunters are MM though.
Let’s pause and ponder for a minute.
Unholy/Frost Dk have Wraith walk which is exactly the same cd as binding shot so they’re good to go.
Retribution has Freedom every 25seconds I believe?
Warrior has bladestorm + Avatar so with a clever use of both they should be fine.
Survival has master’s call on a 1mn cd + legendary that removes magic effects on a 15 sec cd
Monk has tiger lust(30 seconds)
Rogue has cloak(2mn), vanish(2mn) and the honour talent that dispel root/slow(1mn, sprint)
Feral has shapeshift, 0 second cd
DH has magic effect clear from immolation aura., 25 seconds cd
Basically every melee has a way to consistently deal with root effects.
How come they’re not viable counter? Their purpose is to break binding shot root, and they do just that.
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