On my server which is a low pop server(EU - Ten Storms ). A few bots / multi boxers control all the lotuses. They don’t even seem to sell them on this server but transfer them away to other more profitable servers to eventually sell the gold on.
It would be amazing if blizzard could actually make it so that you could not transfer a character with either Black lotuses or Flasks on them. Just like you can’t transfer a character with anything in the mailbox. A really simple fix for something that apparently is extremely hard to otherwise correct. a.e change how you farm black lotus, make it so how it was done in TBC or on some of the private servers where they spawn completely random instead of fixed positions.
Personally I would love a combination of the two.
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Another 0 post private server goon blaming multibox’s for farming lotus when it’s the joint Effort of all the bots and high end guild mafia’s doing it. Call them multi-bots if you must…
I agree the black lotus issue is a problem for a lot of the player base, but it’s like crying that getting rank 14 is an issue for a lot of the player base. At the end of the day you have to no life the ever loving hell out of this game to get the top.
You also don’t know that their being sold off the server for definite, if the top guilds are farming it, they’re stocking up for AQ and nax already as is happening on a lot of different servers, guild banks are also buying them up off AH at crazy high prices just to get enough for when they need them
This is my first post in classic yes.
No I have not played on private servers.
I only mention it because my guildies see this ONE guy all the time on my server.
I can only speak of our own server, that happens to be the same as OP, Ten Storms. We have fairly low population and all the big guilds actually collaborate pretty well, we have a collaboration discord for coordinating guild efforts (like scheduling world buffs, collecting in the war effort and so on). Both alliance and horde side. None of the guilds are forming a “mafia” on any trade goods. There was none on Devilsaur when that was a thing, and there’s non on Black Lotus now.
All the black lotus spots are camped by ghosts, who are monitored 24/7 and soon as a Black Lotus pops up its instantly grabbed. And non of the big guilds is stockpiling them. These campers are not members from any of the guilds and the Black Lotus do hardly ever appear on our auction house.
So even if we can never say it for a fact, it seems very likely they are collected by multiboxing bot’s to be taken of server and sold for max profit elsewhere.
You can say its not true, and its not botting or multiboxing. But the widespread complains about this subject on about every server do suggest otherwise.
If it was just players camping a spot when they are online, without botting, there would be no issue as it would be fair game, first to see it gets it, and the spawn points can be contested between factions even. Currently with bots doing the camping 24/7 in ghost form and auto picking up the second it spawns, that is the issue. Even if its done by guild and they do not leave the server, botting is an illegal action.
If enforcing the rules was actually done by people instead of an automated system, it would have been fixed easily, just as the bot farming of certain instances. But it has no priority, and only things that can be detected with the automatic system are acted on (without human interference or verification) because that is cheaper for the company. This is a fact and we can not change it. But saying it does not happen is being ignorant.
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I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I know it happens… wide scale, but calling them multiboxers is wrong, it’s straight up bots… all off it… and the ones that aren’t are being controlled by one or two guilds with their own members. Spawn times on discord etc. I just take exception to everyone calling it multiboxing, it’s not… it’s no more multiboxing than those strat bots you see running around.
And the reason I quote the p-server brigade Is OP referenced it in his opening statement, and there is nothing p-server peeps like as much as blaming multiboxer For everything.
Lag, blame multiboxers
Layers, multiboxers
AH manipulation, multiboxers
Gold inflation, multiboxers
Queues, multiboxers
And on each server it’s a different, just because ten storms is Bot controlled/gold seller there are servers guild controlled as well. I know Situations on ZT And Shaz where players have taken to sitting on the and waiting for them to spawn to gank them and herb themselves and they run it in shifts to farm lotus for the guild bank.
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You’re all missing the opportunity here to call them the “Black Lotus Triad”.
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I understand where you’re coming from but you’re just muddying the waters here. This thread isn’t about multiboxing and people’s opinions on it don’t need to be discussed here.
Prices are absurd on high/locked servers (they’re almost 300g now) and even low pop servers are just being harvested for them with no intention of ever releasing them into the server’s economy by obvious gold sellers.
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Look at the opening lines of who he blames for the lotus shortfall. Literally second line of the post, my angst with the situation is a group of people who won’t be named are being blamed for what is blatantly gold sellers / guilds harvesting for themselves so nothing sees AH. I mean it’s a simple sum, if demand is greater than supply, prices are extreme if your not in a guild who organizes it.
Gold sellers (which are a MAJOR problem) aside the solo player giving out about guilds harvesting them is like the solo player giving out about premades in wsg. At the end of the day in order to compete you have to group up. You can’t Rambo style classic wow unlike retail.
The main reason that the black lotus is so expensive, is simply due to the fact it was designed for a population of a vanilla realm.
That’s a massive difference.
Low supply + more population = Inflated price.
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Why Blizzard can’t just ban these bots and multiboxers?
Multiboxing is not against the rules
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If you use bots while playing it to lvl tons of characters at once and attack and stuff with them then it is
But thats botting. I think we All know botting is against the rules.
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they dont botting… they (russians) have 10-20 accs… i wrote already post there with nickames and it was reported… one guy with sister 24/7 on few servers including ten storms, judgement, another guy on flamelash… i wrote to blizz… to guild leader, where they are - but nobody cares, response was “allowed by game mechanics, bbhf”
Its not bots but they are clearly gold sellers. Nothing is being done about gold sellers either botting or multiboxing.
Wow classic seems like interesting experiment on how the world would looked like without police enforcing the laws … I am just glad that there are some ingame restriction, otherwise it would be total anarchy.
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Ye… also how people make somewhere good business , coz allowed by mechanic (lotus, buff selling, guy on overepopulated server with a lot warlocks over all azeroth with 350 ppl using his summon service (100g) right to felwood/dm/etc buff)
Multibox supporter spoted, how many herbs u farmed ?
I’ve farmed no herbs, but nice deflection there. However I do multibox and I’m pointing out that this is being done by wide scale botting and bot farms
I agree, a fix of a random Black Lotus spawning when herbing and/or total randomisation of location. Yes Bots would still get to some of them, but at least it gives players a chance.
Or equally remove the bots, but alas one is more difficult than the other.