Black Lotus: status quo and possible solutions

Yes, another Black Lotus post until Blizzard fixes this mess. Black Lotus was 330g on Spineshatter today, Flask of Supreme Power going for 400-450g. This is absurd and the only people that are comfortable buying at this price are RMT gold buyers. People saying “it’s just supply and demand bro, there is no issue” are absolutely unreasonable too, clearly there has to be some kind of market manipulation going on with goblins hoarding Black Lotus and keeping supply artificially low to profit. Moreover, bots seem to mass report players at Black Lotus spawns, see US forum, strengthening their grip of the market. Not using a flask isn’t a solution either, if you’re playing a caster DPS or tank and want to get into good groups in the future. Blizzard has to fix this. These are the two solutions that were brought up in discussions so far:

-Pretty non-invasive: Let Black Lotus drop from all high lvl herbs. Would increase overall supply and rip away some market control from bots, but goblins could still buy up large portions of the market to keep AH supply artifically low.

-More invasive but guaranteed effective: Put a vendor in the game, where Black Lotus can be bought for, say 100g. This is a big change from original classic, but would fix all problems 100% guaranteed, while keeping flasks at a price that’s high enough so you have to work for them, but affordable for non-RMT-gold-buyers. Also, with things like 1g boons and short content phases, this version is already quite different, so why not make a big change in this area as well.

Hopefully this post contributes to making decision makers at Blizzard aware of the ongoing Black Lotus issue and something happens soon.

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just let it be able to spawn from every single note in the high lvl zones instead of fixed points. one thing is the bots but there is also A F* TON duo accounting and standing “afk” on spots with minimapalert, so if you run a whole zone, there is actually only like 10-20% of the spawnpoints where you have a chance to pick it.

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how about, no?

found the swiper

found the clown begging for anti game band aid solutions instead of lobbying against the disease that is bots

anti game? getting rid of bots is impossible and not in blizzard’s interest, so why even lobby for it? the solutions i’m lobbying for should be easy for blizzard to implement and would instantly improve the situation

Wrong. Besides that you are wrong: These groups are all RMT Players if they flask. Why do u want to play with them

not true. for example, many mages in my guild simply bought flasks when they were cheaper. i wanna use the full extent of available tools to make clearing content as efficient as possible and i want to play with other people who also respect my time by playing as efficiently as they can

No idea what your issue is. I see 99 parses of casters not flasking. l2p or learn to trade like the mages in your guild with flasks do. Its up to you

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show me 1 99 mage parse without flask pls

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Surely it would be trivial to link such a parse, right?
You can use the ` symbol on both sides of the link to insert it into a forum post.

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https://fresh.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zhqt2bnRakNmWV1C

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Very well this technically fulfills the requirement so I acknowledge it. But it has to be said he did almost half his damage done to a massive flock of whelps while under arcane power and infusion, which is like the definition of parse padding.

Do you have a parse for a full MC run as well? As Nicolay wrote this is technically a 99% parse, but pretty much cheese/parse padding

And yes another silence ban inc.

Blizzard won’t ban bots because it makes them money too much money. This is already proven. Don’t ask me for peer reviewed sources with a soyjak face either. This is completely obvious. Blizzard can add something else though. Vendor Flasks at 100g would lock prices and if you want to sell you lower prices.

bots are obviously a very large portion of blizzards income. actually id be surprised if you told me they DIDNT have a piece of the gold selling cake.

but this is a fact. if all the people that thught the game was unplayable without flasks just quit instead of trying to ruin it for everyone else who actually enjoys the game without niche and abusive gimmicks blizzard might just consider giving the rest of us some more attention without actually changing how the game fundamentally operates…

There really is no fix if blizzard doesn’t hire in-game GMs a nd bans them. Consumes will go up more and more. When your spell power elix’s are 40g i’m sure you will be asking for some way of locking prices too when other core features of the game become unattainable without buying gold.

that reply looks like u glossed over everything i just said.

and nah. ive been playing this patch for years just fine with no changes. i dont think i’ll start soon.

Hi i don’t think a black lotus market manipulation is going on. Either they banned bots and farmers and supply decreased or because of new raid demand is increased. Because its not only the black lotus price that is going up it’s all of flasks components. dreamfoil was avg 0.55-0.6 its now 0.9 sometimes 1.2. icecap fluctuates between 0.8-2g. mountain silversage was avg 1.4g its now 3.5g. stonescale oil was 0.15 now its 0.7-0.9 and gromsblood was 0.6-0.7 and its 1.2 now.
Sometimes there isn’t even enough if them on AH to make flasks