you know the game is top quality when this thread been up for 3 years and blizzard does the complete opsite.
It is well known that Blizz doesnât make big changes during an expansion, theyâve even said so several times before, and they did say that they didnât have enough time to rework the spec completely due to them starting the rework very late into the beta
they had a life time since Legion, Iâm not impressed in the slightest.
Hope the next version of shadow wonât be as worst of as this version Of shadow is.
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I still think mind spike shadow was funnier than this thing with downgrade void form i really hope classes wont feel so bad going in to the next expack. Why canât they fix this mudane specc already remove the void form look make back the mop look so you can see your transmog again
But they did rework Shadow this expansion. Sure, it was never really finished since they started too late and the guy in charge of priests quit. But the point is that they did work on Shadow.
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thats how the class balance feels like this expack you feel un op.
They can never balance 3 borrowed power systems, thereâs always going to be outliers. Like us in 9.0 where we were the top dogs of single target
hereâs hoping 10.0 wont be another failure.
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Rework more or less a downgrade, if you compare shadow to wrath of the lk shadow. This is worst shadow has ever been done in any expack. You feel like a potatoe seed when you searing nightmare and then trying to void bolt in to that feels unrewarding.
In what way is this shadow priest good? Every other class feels like a dps. Shadow feels like hereâs a sack of potatoes, cook them for 2minutes, then you can be average dps below Bm hunters.
Yeah for AOE, and I did state my example was set in 9.0 where we were top single target dps. Besides what does outliers in balancing of 3 borrowed power systems have to do with what you just said?
You really should change the threads name back to being about aoe, because our single target feels like MoP shadow when we remove covenants and leggos and add in a burst, which is what most ppl wanted back. The only thing we need for our ST is actually useful utility. Besides Iâve never disagreed with you about that our AOE needs a full rework. It was even me that reminded you about cascade
Yeah true that. Cata priest was even better aoe wise. Problem now Is the dot damage of [Searing Nightmare] and [Shadow Word: Pain] that deals no damage what so ever.
None existence for shadow atm.
Yeah I start to think blizzard donât care for class fantasy anymore this expack has made it quiet clear.
4 hotfixes in 9.2 without any shadow buffs. Everyone else got a good legendary a good mastery specc dps wise and good set bonus and good 4set. Shadows 4 set is biggest troll blizzard ever made. Even the patch note with # no changes to priest has to be a mockery.
and that includes the talent three 
a big fat mockery putting all the good talents in the lvl 30 row.
They need to get serious and rework shadow in 10.0 A lot.
In general we just need some QOL changes to ST. MF/MSpike/MS while moving, VB becoming a full time ability
A full rework of our aoe/cleave, potentially losing dotâs altogether? seeing as dotâs are only getting nerfed time and time again, like rn theyâre in a place where we need them, but at the same time theyâre a massive waste of time and potential damage (same thing goes for balance druids).
And then we need some utility, and going with the removal of dotâs idea, SW:P could become a passive 5-15% damage buff aura and VT could become 5-15% passive leech aura with VE buffing the aura to ~30% for 10 sec. Shackle undead, remove the undead part and make it usable on everything. Mind soothe, should be usable on everything
For movement, LoF, make it work like warriors heroic leap, but greater distance and no damage (Make it actually live up to itâs name)
PW:S make it passive and work like warlocks soul leech, but rename it to SW: Shield
Disperse, Just let us cast in it already, or buff the % to a point where we canât get cut through like soft butter even with the talented version in pvp. And maybe move the movement buff from it out to be a standalone ability (It feels extremely awful to use a defensive as mobility)
For PvP buff Psychic Scream to only be removable by trinket and much greater damage than it need rn seeing as it is a CD, and not in anyway the same as Locks no CD, ST, long distance fear
This idea is far out there, but hey itâs topical to shadow.
Stealth! The ability says âConceals you in the shadowsâ Like weâre the masters of shadow why canât we hide ourselves in it?
I donât Like void bolt. I think the whole void form needs to get out of wow and in to a trash bin in the forgotten Conner of shame.
They should buff up dots and make Mind blast relevant to push when of CD and do more damage than mind flay.
Shackle Undead should be renamed Shackle instead and usable on anything that I agree on. Mind Soothe On the other hand I think they should just trash altogether.
Because we are lost in a Failed voidform that needs to go.
The idea behind making it a separate ability is to give us 1. a new button to press with the removal of dots 2. to give us reliable instant damage
The problem with that is, they donât like anyone being strong at spread cleave, so removal would be the best course of action. And it would open up 2 slots for something like Cascade and the then separated VB
And like VB could be renamed Shadow blast
Void Eruption to Shadow eruption, but Iâd rather see that become Cascade and also separated from VF
VF to âsomething shadow sounding damage CDâ
I personally donât wanna go back to static/ramping damage like we used to be, and thatâs both the PvE and PvP side of me saying that. For having that burst makes us so much more versatile when it comes to add swaps, buuuut our dotâs and lack of good aoe abilities are killing that versatility. So really it is only our aoe that really needs to be looked at.
All that we really need for an aoe rework is to have dotâs gone, MS having a damage and insanity scale when hitting 3+ targets to make it actually useful and Cascade no cd, cost 50 insanity and instant cast
And a slight rework of insanity, so that it works like hunters focus, so that we always start out with it capped, just maybe rename it to something else, so that we arenât insane 24/7
And rework mastery back to being multi hit but this time itâs for all of our abilities and add SA/AS to that with a secondary % scale, that procs from all shadow damage done
With what I just said and what I said in my previous post I think we would be in a much better spot overall
yet they allow Warlock to exist.
Yet Aff have been limited as well with their main dot being capped at 1 target