new tuning week , no touch SP …bad product for customers
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Their dev team is a fiesta team 
buff void weaver aoe.
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heard aug is better dps than you guys now
wdym reroll mate, this shouldn’t be an option . Just fix the damn class
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No aoe stressful dots that don’t stay up for long Hard target cap ending talents we can’t use since no damage. still trying to make stress form work with boring void bolt.
Cast time on our dps cds meanwhile johnny bravo runs streemline.
season 2 big L
expect more from a multibillion dollar company.
seams US forum ain’t to happy about the top dogs only getting buffs.
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Yes, those 9 upvotes sure have opened the floodgates. 
they have had since shadowlands to try to fix this now the are having fun with us not picking any ending talents for dps xD
their work is like on point (not)
boring slow void torrent.
They could buff it.
Class Tuning Incoming – 28 May.
- Shadow
- Psychic Link now causes direct damage to inflict 35% of damage dealt to targets afflicted by Vampiric Touch (was 30%).
- Halo damage increased by 30%.
- Voidweaver: Entropic Rift damage increased by 12%.
Band aid Psychic Link buff not any dot spread buff xD
spoken by priest .-
I hate to be that guy but look at Unholy DK in 1 GCD they can apply thier dot to an unlimited amount of targets for a single rune. Boomkins Starfall hits an unlimited amount of targets …etc SP can only dot 8 on a 20 second CD.
Aren’t you dehydrated from crying constantly for 5 years?
took some time but finally a season 3 rework
- Shadow
- Developers’ notes: The Shadow tree has undergone a number of changes in Ghosts of K’aresh that we’re excited to share along with our intent with these changes.
A major goal for us was to update the less impactful or interesting talents in the last three rows of the tree. We like the theme with the idols as capstones but have heard from the community that some of their effects have been lacking. We’ve also added a new ability that can be used after Void Torrent called Void Volley which we think will be an exciting rotational and visual addition to the spec.
We’re making some adjustments to Shadow Crash as well, giving it more flexibility and the option to significantly increase its damage. This does come with a reduction in the number of targets Vampiric Touch is applied to from 8 to 6, but we feel this is a necessary change to ensure Shadow’s damage at lower target counts remains competitive when we do our tuning passes.
While the balance between Mind Flay and Mind Spike has been in a good place, we feel it’s best to recenter the spec on its core and iconic fantasies and Mind Flay is the obvious choice for us to keep in the long term, so we’re removing Mind Spike. We’re keeping Mind Melt with some minor adjustments for it to support the same gameplay for Mind Flay and providing an option to choose between increasing the damage of Mind Flay and using it to increase Mind Blast damage which we think will support each Hero Talent tree in meaningfully different ways.
We’re making a simplification change to Deathspeaker with the aim of reducing the potential number of competing priorities the spec has. We’re looking to create more breathing room and clarity in the rotation while still impacting how often you use Shadow Word: Death in the rotation. We’re also bringing back a previous class set we thought had fun interactions as a follow-up node to Deathspeaker.
We look forward to your feedback!
- Several talents have changed positions in the talent tree.
- New Talent: Dark Thoughts – Increases the chance for Shadowy Insight to occur by 25%. When consuming Shadowy Insight, Mind Blast generates 1 additional Insanity.
- New Talent: Death’s Torment – Shadow Word: Death deals damage 2 additional times at 15% effectiveness.
- New Talent: Madness Weaving – The damage bonus from your Mastery: Shadow Weaving gains 25%/50% additional benefit from Devouring Plague.
- New Talent: Void Volley – Void Torrent is replaced with Void Volley for 20 seconds after it is cast.
- Void Volley – Releases a volley of pure void energy, firing 10 bolts at your target and 1 bolt at all enemies within 10 yards of your target for Shadow damage. Generates 10 Insanity.
- New Talent: Subservient Shadows – Summoned minions last an additional 3 seconds and deal an additional 15% damage.
- New Talent: Phantom Menace – Increases the critical strike chance of Shadowy Apparitions by 10% and their critical strike damage by 40%.
- New Talent: Instilled Doubt – Increases the critical strike chance of Vampiric Touch and Shadow Word: Pain by 8%/15% and their critical strike damage by 20%/40%.
- New Talent: Descending Darkness – Increases Shadow Crash damage by 300%.
- Dark Evangelism has been redesigned – Now increases periodic spell damage by 6%. 1-point talent.
- Deathspeaker has been redesigned – Now increases the damage of Shadow Word: Death by 25% and causes it to gain its damage bonus against targets below 35% instead of 20%.
- Idol of Y’Shaarj has been redesigned – Your damaging spells have a chance to grant Call of the Void, increasing your Haste by 15% for 12 seconds. When Call of the Void ends you are afflicted with Overburdened Mind, reducing your Haste by 10% for 8 seconds.
- Idol of N’Zoth has been redesigned – You create Horrific Visions when casting harmful spells on enemies. At 50 stacks of Horrific Visions, your target sees a nightmare, dealing Shadow damage and granting you 4 Insanity over 3 seconds. At 100 stacks, your target witnesses a vision of N’Zoth, dealing high Shadow damage and granting you 12 Insanity over 3 seconds.
- Mind Melt has been renamed to Shattered Psyche and now works with Mind Flay, increasing the critical strike chance of Mind Blast by 8% per stack, stacking up to 12 times.
- Shadow Crash now has a 15 second cooldown (was 20 seconds) and has 2 charges.
- Shadow Crash now applies Vampiric Touch to 6 targets baseline.
- Void Torrent now has a 30 second cooldown (was 45 seconds).
- Mental Decay increases the damage of Mind Flay by 15% (was 10%).
- Shadowy Apparitions can now critically strike.
- Mind Flay now generates 18 Insanity over its duration (was 12).
- Mind Flay: Insanity now generates 8 Insanity over its duration (was 12).
- Dark Ascension now increases non-periodic Shadow damage by 25% (was 20%).
- Mind Devourer now has a 8% chance to occur and is now a 1-point talent.
- Insidious Ire now also increases the damage of Void Volley.
- Idol of C’Thun now always triggers from Void Volley in addition to Void Torrent. Tooltip updated to reflect this.
- The chance for Tormented Spirits to trigger now scales depending on how many Shadow Word: Pains are active.
- Tormented Spirits is now a 1-point talent.
- The following talents have been removed:
- Malediction
- Mind Spike
- Unfurling Darkness
- Whispering Shadows
talent system for season 3
can you please fix this bugg so it adds 2 more seconds when you use The deaths torment talent (the new one on the ptr)
This talent with the rest of Mindbender and Shadowfiend should just be removed.
It does not fit into the specc at all.
It’s better aoe than what we have now. No aoe. turret spike fiesta which is season 2 snore fiesta.
They should buff up mind bender so we get it as a permanent pet they should buff up https://www.wowhead.com/spell=451308/depth-of-shadows
to always make mindbender spawn and also buff up Torment to be able to make damage go away from dotting as a main source to cleave since it doesn’t work were adds dies in 1 second.
Remove Psychic Link and make Mindbender cleave instead a thing instead along with nzoth
they could make pvp much better.
Dots this season hits for nothing gets dispelled in one second.
make DA and VF instant cast.
make the dot be a thing that spawns instead of a thing we constantly need to applies.
them nerfs already starting and season isn’t even out yet.