Blizzard disregards for addon developers is disheartening.
For years these are the people that fix issues that blizzard have fail / didn’t care to fix themselves.
It seems to boil down to “Thanks for propping up the holes in our UI / game design for year, now get lost”
Their very restrictive implantation of the new lua api seem to be over the top and it seems to be forcing addon developers to just call it quits after spending years on their projects.
Back in April when they announced there were going to prune addon, they made it sound like a slow gradual rollout of these changes and to just drop changes like this seems to be a kick in the face of the developers.
If they want addons to stop solving boss fights for them, that is fair enough but to restrict all person combat data that will break UI’s people have spent months/years perfecting for themselves.
Loosing these restriction to allow addons to only read your own combat data such as my buff and spell cds would be a middle ground between these extremes.
Anyway, I hope they are flexible on these changes and work with the addon developers so there is some compromise so Blizzard, the addon developers and the users of these addons can be happy with the changes
If i cannot track my own defensive buffs thru weakaura i am gonna be very annoyed, wow own trackers do not work that is why i use weak auras, i also need sound cue’s for these text to speech insert buff name, that is what i use weak auras for.
0 addons are the best, no other mmos have as powerful addons as in wow, in fact in many mmos all addons are banned.
0 addons work great because blizz can find grounded module and fix their design over what is normal and humane. enough is playing game with 3rd hand that is always there and predicting every move for you. if I were blizz I would immediately ban all addons, enough is enough. again I am saying, put stable ground and build what is HUMANE, actual HUMANE game, not some mechanical 3rd hand pumping machine.
Blizzard have been breaking addons / incorporating features from them for years. This isn’t anything new. The issue for some is that Blizzard have decided to tackle some of the bigger addons now which is causing uproar. However, if Blizzard listens to feedback and does things right, it could work out better as things would be included in the core game rather than people having to download loads of addons just to stay remotely viable in content.
Speaking as a contributor to an addon I can confirm that this is not correct. Neither myself nor any of our other authors have access nor have we had any contact with or from Blizzard.
They are selectively giving some addon creators access but at least from my team’s perspective that is being done in a very opaque manner.
when I and players like me experienced changes that we did not like, we weren’t so vocal about that, not as much as we should, now when some mainstream change is being done so that it takes away from mainstream community, what happens then… total complete outrage for some of them, this should not happen as its good change. again… create HUMANE game not some mechanical intuitive 3rd hand pumping machine, put stable ground and return to what is normal for Gods sake…
Nowhere has Ion said that all addon creators would be included, only that they are.
Frankly I don’t care about addon creators and am looking forward to removing DBM.
just wait until user ai arrives.
what you think will happen with the games then?
grindy? ai got you.
hard? no problem, ai does that super easy!
pvp? ofc, if you have an ai. maybe you just need it for a dab here and there, in case you forget something?
we need things that are built for humans, that’s for sure. fun things that we want to do and play.
an ai might be tough on the hardware right now, but what about in ten or twenty years?
as things are looking right now, with aim bots and whatchagot, idk if multi gaming will survive.
but maybe we’ll have ais watching for ais then, counter ais. and like biometric reading user input devices that guarantee you are the one doing the clicking. but it’ll be very difficult to get to the ai assistance, i think. maybe if they put everything up for streaming? they’re oogling that keenly. no more owning hardware, all rental.
yeah, humans are funny; very funny. destroying games from both design and by conduct.
It will never be humane again. I am already expecting brainstorm to move towards what FF14 has. Outside overlays, completely shielded from Wow and Blizz.
It will take some using to, but every change is like that. I am positive about this, and at least it will divert some UI addon enthusiasts toward new options in overlays and possibly AI enhanced tools.
Even now, long before any such future I dedicated part of my PC performance to my AI assistant, this will move me closer to her.
Blizzard does not disregard addon developers. The issue is that some addon developers went over the top with their functionalities in combat scenarios.
Blizzard accepted this and created their content around those addons so the content stayed challenging.
This is a spiral that was prone to get out of hand at one point and Blizzard, as the content developers, are the ones who have to check and eventually pull the handbreak before they are completely incapable of creating content that is impossible for non addon users to complete.
As a game developer you are in responsibility to provide a game that is playable entirely vanilla with only the UI options of the game itself, and that was not the case anymore for a long time now. Blizzard had to pull the breaks.
Now they involve those addon developers to find a proper middleground for implementing some of the addond functionalities while keeping a lid on how much combat information the player should be allowed to have and then creating content around those functionalities.
Prohibiting further combat addons serves the sole purpose the not having the system spiral off again.
There is nothing more to this, especially not “disregarding addon developers”.
And where are all those MMOs? Ah yes in the trash bin of history. Pretty much wow is headed that way as well. Unless bliz starts prioritizing hiring normal designers over pink haired ones
While I do not know what’s been going on between authors and blizz (good luck to them if blizz is blizzing), I just find it amusing that I have been seeing so many comments about how wow is turning into a mobile game due to pruning…while…we had addons screaming GO TRIANGLE, IN FIVE SECONDS THIS SKILL, etc
In the end it is their game, right? And they have decided to change it somehow, they have their reasons for that, possibly backed up by figures and facts we have no information about.