Is it normal to have to login into evening, then enter into BWL and disconnect untill raid night ?
Because it seem it’s the only way to go into BWL with accuracy.
Otherwise, if come at raid night, the world is unplayable, Blackrock Mountain and Kargath lag insanely, there’s rollback, people random disconnect.
Why ? Because there’s only 1 Orb to enter into BWL. And when there’s lot of people on this Orb, player can’t click on it. So what’s happen ? It’s like a traffic jam who never end. More & more players get stuck outside, trying to find the orb, and the server is lagging more and more, more and more players come, and it never end. It’s a recursive process that never terminate, an infinite loop.
There’s people that try to go into UBRS entrance to escape this hell, but when server lag, you can’t enter into UBRS. You are hard stuck into the portal and then disconnect and rollback to Kargath.
Solution ? Add a portal for BWL and fix your dogsh** server.
We pay a subscription, we deserve it. Period.
Also, I would like to add that there’s Warsong P3 items that are missing on Sulfuron server. And I would like to add that First Aid trainer and some NPC have disappear in Orgrimmar since you opened BWL, on Sulfuron server.
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+1 portal to BWL or npcs(in different location) to teleport you inside will be great. Both my guild’s raids got delayed by 2+ hours coz of AOE on the Orb + insane queue times.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
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it’s like the developers of 2004’s Blizzard did this intentionally to see how the future indiecomp Shizzard will react when they release the game! Well done!
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They listened to the #nochanges crowd and now is the outcome. What did you expect for opening week of one of the most highly talked about raids? especially after we have been clearing MC like its nothing since release.
#nochanges
Play on low pop realm or medium
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Doubt #nochanges wanted such population on realms
I’ve seen raid launches on a server with 6K record peak players and it was just normal and fine.
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I doubt they did aswell but when you scream #nochanges to the slightest variation that was offered then ofc Blizzard will give up trying and give you exactly what you asked for.
I blame the community for every issue that arises because the loud minority stopped blizzard at every post from attempting to add some qol changes to vanilla.
For the most part that would have to be QoL changes on problems they created themselves. And I doubt “#nochanges” has any effect. At best they talked and considered what spoke persons from the community had to say (a.k.a some bigger streamers) and for the most part there weren’t that no-change extreme.
So the biggest streamers being Esfand/Sodapoppin/Asmongold on multiple streams had said they want vanilla to be exactly how it was back in the day with zero changes.
Also Blizzard were hesitant to even do vanilla so they were sure as hell hesitant to start making changes especially when the mere notion of one got massive downvotes on the forums and on reddit.
Just look at the realm list names… people were crying and moaning that all the original names werent there and that was just for names for god sake.
Honestly the wow classic community has some amazing people now but before release and just slightly after it was filled with #nochange zergs
I’ve seen Esfand or even Asmon comments on layering and alike and there wasn’t hard no. They knew why it’s there and why it’s “needed” (while it ended up poorly implemented that’s a different part of the story). Plus they had any effect only prior to launch. After that it was just Blizzard looking by how people, even streamers didn’t know on the small release changes they were doing to the content.
IMHO you are putting to much of a value here on the players side. They did very little here.
I probably am because I for a while actually left the classic subreddit and this forum alone entirely just due to the amount of toxic posts that were just talking nonsense and posts upon posts of just #nochanges. So im more jaded to the community now that I have ever been tbh.
For the most part the “meme” part of forums or reddit will be people angry that everyone isn’t playing the game correctly - like they do. That’s a simple way of making the company not having anything to do with “players feedback”.
Are you retarded ? No changes meant a 3k pop cap like vanilla, so no lag. This is not no changes
The ammount of BS one can read on this forum is amazing.
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This is how we entered the dungeon:
- Go to the orb, right in front of it.
- Zoom in until you play in first person perspective. You probably still can’t click on the orb, too many people.
- Log off.
- Log back in. The orb gets loaded immediately, the other players take a few moments to load. Click the orb while the players aren’t loaded.
4.a If you load the players too quickly slow down your connection. Start a download or start multiple downloads. Repeat 3 and 4.
The reason for step 2 is so the orb fills most of your screen and is more easily clickable.
If this is how Blackrock Mountain is still a while after a new raid is out aka not EVERYONE is there RIGHT NOW imagine the AQ opening event.
OOF.
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I had 42 people sat around for 1.5hrs before I called it and went to Onyxia instead. We had time for 2 bosses afterwards.
Even when just those able to get into the raid thats 40 people unable to play a game we have paid for and with no response from Blizzard. My server’s GM discord had 5-6 other guilds in the exact same position. I’m sure it’s something not helped by it being the main raiding day for most guilds outside of Wednesday and BWL being launched at such a peculiar time for EU.
Robbed of our first raid day this was our chance to challenge BWL, see some ‘new’ content and have fun.
Instead all the guilds had at least 40 people sat about frustrated unable to do anything.
We lost world buffs, we lost hours of time, we lost a week of raiding in effect. It’s not on, especially not for a subscription service.
Some dudes were really bad at clicking portals during Kalecgos’ fight. I suspect they are the same.
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Ah i love we just Can run and click it?
Might time to transfer ? 
Yes, he’s brainless, among with all others saying #nochanges. They can’t think.