Blizzard have changed loot tables for classic. HOJ now also drops from Angerforge

https:// classic.wowhead. com /item=11815/hand-of-justice#dropped-by

This is the BIS for all melee. and now blizzard have gone and made it drop from one of the first bosses in BRD, not only the last boss.

i don’t even know what to say anymore.

(we’ve seen it drop, its not a bug from wowhead)

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It’s over folks, pack your bags, classic is ruined now.

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Should be a bug right?

Thats the issue with lack of beta from 40+

https://classic.wowhead.com/item=11815/hand-of-justice#dropped-by fixed ;p

Hmm not sure why you are complaining, i seem to remember it having more than one mob it.

I do seem to remember i had it drop on my warrior in vanilla from Angerforge.
I might be wrong on this as i am basing this purely on my own memory here.

Is there a place to see what mobs did drop what in vanilla? thottbot sent me to wowhead classic so that is out.
Edit: so on the wowhead page it shows thottbot comments and there is a comment mentioning the trinket and the comment is from patch 1.9.4 sorry the comment is on General Angerforge’s page.

thottbot or wowhead doesn’t have a confirmed drop from the past other than a comment. the comment says it used to be able to drop, but they removed it… one says that the hand of justice and force of will switched places. (1.12 comment).

if thats the case then they’re not using 1.12 tables(and since they claim to not have older data i don’t understand why this would be the case)

No the comment is this one:
" From ThottbotBy faezi [on 2006/02/27] (Patch 1.9.4)

Subject: "The Fight"First thing to do would be to kill the 2 fireguard destroyers at the bottom of the ramp enroute to Angerforge, (when angerforge reaches 50% health he calls out an “alarm” and reinforcements arrive, at the top of this ramp and will train down towards angerforge and his attackers).

The group of 3-4 elites in the corner by the window don’t need to be cleared but would be advised for pickup groups.

Angerforge is surrounded by extremely squishy buddies, these can be despatched in a matter of seconds by a rogue or any type of damaging AOE, just send your tank in to angerforge and let the DPS kill the squishies (dont bother with CC).

Get the tank to move angerforge to the bottom of the ramp, when angerforge reaches 50% health he calls for help, spawning 2 Elite medics, and about 6 squishies similar to the ones that surrounded angerforge, these spawn at the top of the ramp and will train down to angerforge, get your warrior to intercept them with a demoralizing shout.

If you are farming for HoJ and just duoing angerforge, its best to quickly kill the squishies, then the medics, then angerforge, on the otherhand, if you are in a party, it might be best to make the medics priority, or just ignore them and burn down the rest of angerforge’s HP."

Look at the end here If you are farming for HoJ, HoJ must mean Hand of Justice.
I have bolded the part that is important for this.

I see on the trinkets web page there are questions if it drops from the general.
In this patch, but there are also a comment that talks about it dropping for them in this very patch from the General.

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i find it hard to believe that 15 years of knowledge, drops and the entirety of vanilla. nobody had a confirmed drop registered on wowhead or thottbot.
If it turns out to be true and that this was the case in 1.12. i’ll concede that its correct, and leave it at that.

But from vanilla to now, i’ve never seen, heard or read about anyone ever getting or trying to get HOJ from anything other than emp. its why stealth runs became popular(along with ironfoe)

edit: the only reason for that comment i can think of is that he thought it could drop from angerforge, and thats how they tried farming it without ever getting it. or that it was changed before 1.12.

I can only go from memory and what i am reading on those old comments but in 1.9.4 it sure looks like it can drop from the General as there is a comment on the trinket about a rogue and a hunter doing 30 runs for it and then getting it to drop from him.

Is it possible that it should not drop in patch 1.12 from him it might be i do not know.
But that would be a change they made because it sure looks like people where farming General for it and getting the trinket from him at least in the 1.9.4 patch.
Just looking at the comments on the boss mob himself and the trinket.

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