World content is faceroll.
Why would I do m+ or raid for the gear progression if I can just faceroll world content?
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Have you tried soloing an elite in ZC with say 415 ilvl?
Yes and it was fine. Unless it’s a world boss or similar, I’m just not going to die in on my DK in world content. It only takes time to kill the elites, they were not hard to kill.
How about your priest?
Why would I try to solo anything as a healer.
I mean, I regularly do world content on my hpriest because it’s supposedly part of my progression path. The same will go for other players who are not pushing M+ very high or raiding higher than LFR, which are quite a few people.
I’m gonna go with a “I don’t understand why you’re playing a healer if you’re only doing solo content” here.
I don’t only do solo content on her but if I want to upgrade my veteran gear and hate M+ I don’t have that many options to get enough drake crests.
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I have 400 coins from just doing the event in ZC, I could buy a lot of drake crests for those coins, like 26 crests.
Also, drake crests drop from the raid on normal. In massive amounts.
People will care and so they should . Mmorpgs are built on the concept of awarding players for time investment and progression, not just progression.
Providing they make reps / renowns account wide so it only requires to do once, i dont see a issue on some engagement with open world being benefical to a raider / m+ player.
I am a m+ player i primarily engage only with m+. But i feel everyone kinda needs to accept a compromise. AP was too far, due to the quantity of systems it demanded u to progress.
However, i think basic gear rewards from reps / rewards in the style of valor was, dont think was ever considered a problem when u look at MoP and prior.
It was some garunteed loot for people, to help fill slots while also offering open world players something to strive for. I think blizzard went too hard in terms of making open world optional.
And sadly i think it did nore harm then good, sure some are happy with it being entirely skippable without any benefical reason to do it. But many are unhappy, including players who play several characters.
Make reps / renowns account wide, reduces the intrusion this would have on players account wide allowing all chars to access the rewards on the account. It will also remove repeating the grind on several characters.
A good source to catch alts up for those who play m+ / raid while offering open world players things to achieve, imho is the best compromise for such a situation, its not perfect. There will be some who will be annoyed. But i think we all need to take a moment and think about others, rather then solely self.
No worries! I butcher my own name too 
And it is a hobby of my premade friends group too… sigh 
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You can buy 2 crests total per week if you do it legit. Which I do. And I’m sure you can agree logging in once a week to buy two crests and then log out again isn’t exactly ‘compelling gameplay’ 
I’m in too much pain to sit for long stints of time, I need regular breaks, I don’t want to suddenly leave halfway etc. I don’t like burdening others with my problems so I stay out of Normal 
Just let people turn in 10 welpling crests for 1 drake, 10 drake for 1 wyrm and 10 wyrm for 1 aspect. This means that a casual player needs 1000 welpling crests for one single aspect crests. Happy farming. You’ll need all season and never run out of stuff to do. Maybe this is a bit extreme, but you get the idea.
Define long.
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Nobody cares if you leave a normal or hc run. People drop out at will constantly from both normal and hc raids. It’s not like it’s hard to replace people.
I mean, I’ve proposed a good middle ground which was adding upgrade back in the game while TF would be a shortcut so that grind could make up for bad luck, but you’ve said it’s not a good idea so what would have beena good solution then ?
In cases where group A wants X feature to stay and group B wants X feature to be removed. Blizzard is bound to displease one group of players regardless what they do…or don’t do.
There were other options. There still are.
X feature could be altered to function for group B, but not group A.
A new feature could have taken its place; one that didn’t have the downsides for group A.
I don’t recall the specifics, but if I said that; then I must have had my reasons.
I’ve said this loads of times in several threads: A specific ‘AP-like’ grind for world content. That would ‘power’ something that only works in world content so it wouldn’t impact the ‘big 3’.
well i certainly do despise this version of game and hate the negative influence that streamers and mythic raiders have on game for years.
dont worry - im old enouhg to be able to find my fun . and once i dont have it anymore i just dont play . im cought up on chinese and korean mangas for sure because i havent been playing for over a month now - only came back 2 days ago to catch tenders , will play next week to catch septemeber rewards too and then im gone till late october when very likely S3 will land,
i wish there was a reason for me to play as extensively as on s2 launch . sadly there isnt because neithr 10.1.5 nor 10.1.7 bring any content for people who played since start of patch . which makes those waste of time
the start of this season was imo strongest point of this expansion due to crests , events etc , sadly it fast fallen once you hit the soft caps of whelpiling/drake quests and then you had nothing more to do if you cba to spam m+ for crests ( and i certainly cba - doesnt stop me from joining 14-18 on all chars )
i have my opinions about m+ too since i do it on 13 chars , 6 tanks 7 dps which gives me variation of opinions that im not scare to speak loudly.
dont care about raiding so as you might have noticed i dont speak about at all lately because i dont do it.
overall imo game is in horribly bad state and participation ratio prove me to be 100 % correct and people like you to be 100 % wrong
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World Quest Tier Set. Upgradeable. Njada njada njada bla bla.