Blizzard, pls move Horde starting cave to the south, so the Alliance has a chance to win

Piolho-stonespine · February 15, 2020, 8:30pm

tbh i just would like to see AFK and BOTS fixed

at least Alliance wouldnt start with 25/30 vs 35/40

not to mention the harpie farmers and fishermans

To many Alliance play AV not to win but to relax and watch/laugh others strugle

Discoklaus-mograine · February 15, 2020, 8:52pm

Suavemente:

Hey guys. First of all, I know this topic has been brought out many times before, but I think we should speak, ask and cry about it, until Blizzard actually does something with it.

So what am I talking about? I am talking about this:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/av-map-needs-changing-coming-from-a-horde-player/437696

Alliance is currently losing probably 8 or 9 out of 10 AV battles. And for half of those defeats, the biggest reason is the horde starting cave, which gives them huge and unfair starting advantage. In the other 4 Ally defeats, the Horde simply has a better team, and that is totally fine, let a better team win.

What makes me angry is how Blizzard tweaked AV so the Alliance can’t make premades, because that gives them unfair advantage. Ok, fine.

Meanwhile, the Horde using broken starting point to win 80-90% of the games - everything is fine and balance, no unfair advantage there.

So I have a question for Blizzard: Is your intention for the horde to win 90% of the games? If yes, than don’t do anything.

If not, than pls fix this. It won’t resolve every problem, but it would be better in comparison what we have now.

And to hell with #nochanges if we are talking about broken things that totally ruins the gameplay experience for half of the people.

Ty.

i really wish they would do it, so you alliance whiners would finally realize its not the cave but the 10 afk people every game thats loosing you the game.

Gröngubbe-mirage-raceway · February 16, 2020, 1:46am

In TBC, with the cave moved back, I remember Horde not entering FoS at all to begin with, but awaited the Alliance at IB/Galv to have a first skirmish.

I am no tactician, and I’m as terrible now as then at pvp, but I think the point was to break their assault up, as you ress in waves, and make the assault of SHB and IWB easier. SHGY was still off limits for capping without having the chat fill with groans and abuse directed at the capper.

I am unsure if it was before or after reinforcements though.

Marmelade-razorgore · February 16, 2020, 5:23am

So fun to watch how hordes trying to convince themself they are winning because they are good, not because everything in this game horde favored, from horde playing developers to cheat racials and av map advantages

Exid-nethergarde-keep · February 16, 2020, 7:52am

Ya I guess that’s why every alliance zone was done before they even started the horde content at all, leaving us with unfinished quest chains, an absolute insane amount of kill/fetch quests compared to the alliance.

But then again you will find anything to cry about to make your victimized mentality feel legit.

Kemurai-argent-dawn · February 16, 2020, 7:58am

Marmelade’s in this topic again XD.

He’ll find something else to moan about the horde, if horde racials were removed and the cave moved south.

Marmelade-razorgore · February 16, 2020, 9:05am

I started to think average horde rollers iq is not high enough to understand simple things, like how alliance control abilities do not work in pvp, while hordes working all the time.
If you dont see problem here you should seek medical attention honestly, this logic flaws can make your mature life handicapped in future.

Exid-nethergarde-keep · February 16, 2020, 9:09am

I’m going to need a translation of this spaghetti to make a proper response.

Cause you sound mad.

Marmelade-razorgore · February 16, 2020, 9:11am

Doctor will help you with it, just make sure to save screenshot.

Kardiac-steamwheedle-cartel · February 16, 2020, 9:14am

As has been pointed out quite a few times, back in Vanilla you had the same map, same racials, same gear available and Alliance won AV loads. If you want the TBC AV map then wait for TBC but if everythings the same and Alliance aren’t winning nowadays the problem doesn’t lie with the content.

Exid-nethergarde-keep · February 16, 2020, 9:20am

Sure I can do that, but I’m pretty sure he will just tell me that you need to git good and stop playing the victim card all the time.

Marmelade-razorgore · February 16, 2020, 10:08am

Why you can’t fly like a bird, just git good and defeat gravity and stop playing the victim card all the time.

system · March 17, 2020, 10:08am

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