what bnet? u are not the main person here balistix even if u think so. The message wasnt for u. Go and play a bit Epic struggle vs bad randoms.
And you go around and call us toxic, yet you and fado went around, trying to trashtalk pandora behind her back? can’t you see how hypocritical this is?
Then win by “strat and tactics”. you always say that the other premades win by tactics and not power, but how come it doesn’t work vs us? Also explain me your “tactics and strats”? to turtle inside the base in ashran? That is just lame, relying on the help of npcs to win, lol.
Going around and using mass stealth is just basic understanding of the game, everyone does it, nothing to brag about.
She never “actively recruited” members from fado, people kept asking HER if they can join when fado didn’t play epics, but then they decided one day to play with us instead of fado and he got mad as hell. We also had people from us playing with him, how is this ok but the other way around isn’t? People are free to play with whomever they want, the fact that fado (and his pala friend i used to like) thought he can controll “his people” and tell people with whom they can play or not is insane, legit insane.
It can be narrowed down to basically just “mimimi we no more the only premade”, thats it.
Everyone does have the slideshow but of course you decide to wrongly accuse people of using scripts and autokick, how pathetic, how mad can you be that you got kicked? You say you don’t care, yet look at you, how you trashtalk whenever you get the chance to. You tell lies, you insult.
you made death threats, it doesn’t matter what YOU think is humor, death threats aimed outside the game are just that, death threats, nothing compared to people saying “go kill that hunter, he’s at sunken ring”, your threads were specifically aimed IRL.
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I remember you saying on the german forum that you used to premade the big bgs (alterac and isle of conquest) during wod/legion too, no? How was this any better than now? And just because you don’t do this anymore doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Premades during this time were even worse than the premades nowadays,
I like you, really, but sometimes the stuff you say is just hypocritical and doublestandards.
Might be true, but you do that constantly on german forum, how you always defeat the evil evil russian Premades whenver people start crying about them.
Again, i like you, we share the same views in kinda a lot of topics, but may i ask why do you leave against our normal 5 man group in random bgs? You want a challenge and nice fair balanced fights, got it, but it sounds like you and many others people (especially in german forum), only want them if you know 100% that you win at the end of the bg, isn’t that hypocritical?
It looks like that you seek for the 0 Challenge games and just want to stomp randoms, the very thing you despise on the premade groups.
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Actually I was invited. I was not meant to talk russian, and you know it, I was meant to have a discussion with you, in english. In that Discord everyone is muted, and they unmuted me to speak to you. But instead of speaking you didn’t say a word, too scared. People were telling you to answer me, but you hid in a corner muted.
My warrior officer never mained warlock btw. I don’t know what you’re talking about anymore - do you? It looks like you’re losing it. Time to let all this go and move on. It’s not doing you well.
Cmon. Stop it now.
You play Premades too. In Epics as well.
Also, if you want fair fights, why do you and your premade leave against my premade in small bgs?
This hunter accuses us to use scripts and autokicks.
Man, my eyes. What am I reading. How salty are you that you got kicked from our Community?
More like tried it out once. That was back in the day when national pools were seperated in epic bgs. I was playing with some Russians at the time and they invited me to take part in a premade alterac raid. We organized 8 groups, joined teamspeak, synced the invites and all got into the same alterac, then the leader muted everyone else and told us to go spawncamp graveyards and don’t go for towers, just kills.
We actually lost the first round because the enemy got some of our towers and the leader strictly refused to take objectives, so in the end we had less reinforcements and lost.
I thought maybe that was just a bad round and I need more impressions, so I agreed to do the same thing again. We won, but it wasn’t fun. We bored and tortured our opponents to death until they lost 600 tickets, 1 at a time. That wasn’t remotely fair or fun.
I participated exactly twice in a premade raid to find out what it’s like to play bgs in a premade raid. I find it lame and this opinion has persisted to this day. I would never do it again. There is no excuse for people who do this on a regular basis and try to justify it imo.
Most of them aren’t premades at all. Maybe groups of up to 5, but there are groups like this in every pool. It is not different from what you and I are doing. Many misidentify them as premades because some players are from the same server, but there aren’t that many active and well populated russian servers. Many players flock to the same three. (Gordunni, Soulflayer…).
These threads are also used to spread stereotypes and false accusations of cheating about Russian players in general that are just not accurate. They are players just like everyone else and only their cyrillic letters stand out. There are other reasons why people who blame Russians often lose to them, they have to do with their own lack of skill.
And yes, I do win against them most of the time.
I don’t exactly hate you either, but I consider your bending of the 5 man rule to be quite unsportive. I think it was your group that did that thing with bringing the siege engine to docks and not capping the flag so you could roadkill the respawning horde players. Not cool, bro. Humiliations like these make people want to quit the game.
If you play bgs in 5 man groups, I don’t mind that at all.
Sometimes I just don’t feel like fighting David VS Goliath. You guys tend to play bgs in a full 5 man stack. I am often with just 1 buddy. Then I would inspect my team and find ungeared players against your full 5 man group. The result is predictable and there is little point in even playing the round.
Oftentimes that would be my last round for the day when I run into you as opponents and then I just say “eh, let’s call it a day.”
Same thing when I realize that I am up against a premade raid in epic bgs. Sometimes I’m like “OK, let’s see what we can do”, sometimes I am like “cba, wanna play arenas instead?” And then me and my friends would leave. It depends on my mood.
When I have 2 or more friends with me I would often give you a fight in random bgs because then we stand a chance. Me and my friends might be responsible for a significant proportion of the few games you did lose.
I just like to have 1 or 2 people with me in the round who I can rely on to play objectives. The challenge is still there, but I don’t have to yell at the monitor because my team consists of morons and nobody is playing the right objective.
But bringing 20 commandos into epic bgs really removes all of the challenge.
5 People who know what they are doing are more than enough to win at least 80% of epic bgs. You don’t need to bend the 5 man rule.
Don’t bend the 5 man rule, that is all.
I don’t do it. You shouldn’t either.
But since you likely won’t do me this favor voluntarily, I advocate for mixing alliance and horde teams so that getting your whole premade raid into the same team is impossible, no matter how hard you try. Small 5 man groups would still be kept together. Then you can play with your friends the right way.
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revenge is coming btw u following me in ab how dare you! was mega tired xd
i think i might have to take a break from bgs… idk why its giving me transfer aborted 3 bgs out of 5… its starting to rly bother me, i guess ill do some pve and wpvp 
You were not invited by Rezal, he said so himself. One of your cultists gave you the info they were arguing about you (seems to be a trend) and you gatecrashed the discussion. I wasn’t scared to talk to you I just explained to Rezal and the others in Russian what kind of person you are. Not interested in talking with you then, or now, just now you forced my hand turning this thread on premades about you.
I never made death threats, you don’t know what it’s like to receive death threats, you’re just a spoiled kid hiding behind a computer screen. The joke was 100% in-game context but you are too unintelligent to get it or you have no humour, you are toxing and boring.
Again, I couldn’t care less about your toxic community and wouldn’t rejoin even if you begged me after kicking “your warrior officer”. You’re narcissic and create arguments everywhere you go. Go be toxic and ruin some epics for the other players even on your team.
How about you let them have their own opinion about a person without trying to manipulate them and put lies into their ears? You should try it, it is amazing.
why didn’t he kick her then? and why did he wrote her then to come and join voice? again, stop telling lies. How can you be so hypocritical? it makes me sick
NOBODY from us wrote in this thread, our community wasn’t even mentioned, YOU were the only to mention us and spreading toxicity about us. YOU’RE the only narcissistic person in here, that turns every about you and how much you hate pandora because one of her officers had a go at you, which btw, he speaks for himself, we allow people to have their own opinion, again, try it, it is really amazing.
don’t flatter yourself, there is not a single person that wants you back, and nothing in the world will change that, in fact, you were the only one begging to every officer to get invited back, again, stop telling lies.
WHO do you think you are, to tell if other people recieved death threads or not? you know nothing about me, you call me unintelligent because i “don’t understand humor” or “bfa humor” like you said, well you’re kind of right, i don’t see death threats as humor and i think nobody should. Especially not after you had a mental breakdown when we focused you down in a bg once
Fun fact: YOU DID. YOU were really mad because we focused you. Also nice accusation there, especially when it comes from you.
Oh i know that, i was just sarcastic, they’re just like any other pool, just smaller. They only have a different mindset.
Alright, fair enough.
As far as i remember we did this vs another pemade.
Well we also do play without a 5 stack, as you know we met a few times when i was solo playing on my horde dk on german pool.
I never take it upon myself to talk about your toxic premade, unless it comes to my attention, or am provoked, or I have draw a picture of the state of premades today to address the issue with randoms.
I didn’t put lie into ears at Rezal’s Discord, I explained facts and why I had no interest in pursueing discussion with Pandora, who gatecrashed the meeting without invitation from Rezal or any elder at Rezal’s. He didn’t kick her not to be rude and address the problem (her acting in Rezal’s ingame commu as if they needed her permission to queue).
You defend your leader but you are ignorant or you lie. It is a known fact how she started recruiting top players from Fado’s raid actively, other players curious wanted to try later after it got some momentum. It’s been going on for years.
If you guys don’t use scripts then explain me why my computer goes in slide show mode in midfights vs. you guys and not vs. randoms? Plus I didn’t formally accused, I mentioned it as probable.
You twist my words, I didn’t say death threats are humour, I said there was no death threat, the joke was ingame, as in battlegrounds-wise playing. I didn’t go and cut real life portraits from players and paste them on a dart board. I didn’t have “a mental breakdown” when you focused me in a bg once (that I joined random), actually I found it quite funny, especially given I didn’t notice right away your raid on the other side. In another instance you spammed symbols changes on my head while we were on the same team. That wasn’t funny but i didn’t make any breakdown either. I don’t know where you got that idea from, but it’s clear you’re delusional.
Anyway, bottom line, Pandora’s premade is toxic, no one enjoys playing against them or even alongside them.
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAH
HOLY COW MAN
Reading this is just, woah!
Insane.
You started talking about my Community and me. And so we answer you.
That post is pure gold, you need help.
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I mentioned your community in passing as to warn random players, who started this post, what to expect. Deal with the consequences of your gaming habits. You ruin the game for everyone outside of your group. Randoms have the right to know what to expect when they have the misfortune to encounter your group. Even randoms on your side don’t enjoy the way your “steamroll” the opposing team.
You are convinced of many things, all of them just to make yourself feel better.
You’re boring and nobody likes you tbh.
I’m an appreciated raid leader at Fado’s when I group for Alliance, as I was at Rezal’s earlier when I would raidlead in 2 or 3 languages. Just now I don’t have the free time like I had last spring to keep it a habit. I’m also appreciated by randoms when I take over an entirely random bg and help them win. Randoms whisp me after the bg to thank me and ask me if there is a community. You on the other hand are despised by random and other premade leaders alike. You provoke arguments wherever you go. So let’s call it a day, I will never play with you again, and you will never play with me again, except for sheer misfortune in random splits.
Some people day dream too much. It’s bad for your sanity, as it shows.
Raid lead more horde groups, so we shall face each other! We wait for you!