Blizzcon Lore Interviews with Steve Danuser & Morgan Day

Orcs flexing on other races is more of a spiritual metaphor permeating the ambience of the setting. Every day is an Green Bicep Moment as we pass in their wake of noble savage struggle and the mark they’ve left on history.

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And the trail of bodies.

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Can we not give Blizzard ideas? The next thing they’ll come up with is that experiences in life means you can influence others around you if your will is strong enough and if your cause is right. Which is how Tyrande (despite being utterly stupid) and other faction leaders stay in control of their group. Anduin doesn’t because he has doubts to be the king since day 1.

(Is this Haki from One Piece? Yes it is)

https://img.fireden.net/co/image/1580/53/1580539346658.jpg

God, I wish she would touch me like that. :tired_face:

also also: SOCIAL DISTANCING JAINA.

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WoW’s writing has been polluted by anime for years.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JapaneseSpirit

It’s the moment where Jaina realised that she was wrong all along for hating the Horde for annihilating her sub-kingdom, her dad, raising her brother against his will, generally being omnicidal maniacs and having no eyebrows and just based in the aura of their savage nobility and forgave them.

Also Shadowlands story is garbage. Danuser and Day need to publish some books and learn how to write and worldbuild.

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The W-word is not allowed in The Dojo.

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I’ll say it and you can’t stop me.

Worldbuild.

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D&D… like a certain other D&D that used to work on a certain show.

Coincidence? :thinking:

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We’re going to have a scooby doo mask ripping moment eventually, aren’t we?

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You know, I think this is just an issue of them getting put into positions they were never supposed to be in.

They started at Blizzard as just regular quest design writers, they were probably very good in their job.

Then they got promoted… Higher and higher… And now they are the lead designers. Are they fit for their job? Nope. They were good as quest designers, not as lead designers.

Apart from all the corperate talk they do, they probably have absolute zero idea how to proceed because they are just overwhelmed with their job since many years. Sure, the money is nice but that’s probably it.

Someone mentioned somewhere that there was an episode of “The Office” that showcased exactly that problem. People getting promoted because they do a good job does not mean they will be good in their new position. More often than not, that higher position will make them completely fail.

Or you graduated from some fancy Hollywood writing school and manage to write the worst continuation in history, isn’t that right GoT season 8? :slight_smile:

I’d welcome Blizzard to say “yeah we don’t focus that much on story anymore” because it would at least be an honest answer.

What gets me is when they keep toting stuff like “NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE NARRATIVE TEAM TO PRODUCE THIS NEW EXPANSION” and the story is still horrendous.

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I also blame the Wow Youtubers making endless theories/predictions of what could the lore be by having to craft lore from cloth when let’s be real, there’s no way Danuser&Co have that level of depth for the current lore.

In some way, they remind of the SW New trilogy fan who had to make up reason why JJ and Ryan’s script made sense and consistency when really, it was just dumpsterfire.

It Peeves me to no end that nothing in Wow is set in stone and can be Necromanced back to relevance despite how narratively speaking it’s world-breaking.

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For all of Metzen’s faults ( which tbh aren’t many ), he managed to pull all of us into his world with ease.

While Danuser and co are pushing us all away with their asinine decisions.

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I know you just brought this up as an example…

But I want to mention number 5 of New Yorks bestsellers in 2005 which reached number 1 in the span of a month: Twilight. :slight_smile:

You know what else was on the bestsellers list of New York? Fifty Shades of Grey.

Just because it’s a New York bestseller author doesn’t mean it has good quality. Christie Golden is talented. But she is not one for the inconsequential story that Warcraft has.

Blizzard and other companies are getting blinded by degrees and titles when the true success for their company was a few nerds coming up with stuff.

this but unironically

Love orcs, I do

Selling a lot of books does not make an author good. Dan Brown sold a lot of books and his novels are pretty forgettable trash. Amazon is just as gameable as the NYT bestselllers list, just the game is a bit different.

Obligatory Wikipedia link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

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But it involves no slobbering over sosig :stuck_out_tongue:

But fair. Expecting Blizzard to actually dig into a writer’s work to find out if they’re good or not is apparently too much these days.